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<p>[QUOTE="dcarr, post: 1001525, member: 4781"]Greetings everyone,</p><p><br /></p><p>Ever since I was a coin collector kid in the 1970s, I day-dreamed about what it would be like to be able to grab a freshly-minted 1964-D Peace Silver Dollar just as it came off the press, just before dropping into the bin. Now I get to live that dream - as close as will ever be possible, anyway. Imagine how much fun it is to be able to have your way with a coin press, some original Peace Dollars (to use as "blanks"), and some "1964" dies. Now I have something I always wanted - my own "1964" Peace Dollar.</p><p><br /></p><p>I did the 2009-DC "proofed" Silver Eagles because I thought they would be neat. These and the "1964-D" fantasy over-struck coins are certainly not for everyone - only a miniority of collectors would have interest in them. But they started out as legal tender, and technically still are - but I don't in any way endorse their use as such. If you take a dollar bill and stamp "where's George" on it, it is still legal tender. If you attempt to make that dollar bill look like a $100, and then try to pass it as $100, then that is highly illegal. I'm not changing the face value of the host coins. No metal is ever added or removed. And one thing I'm NOT doing, or will ever do, is make something that actually exists. 2009 "proof" Silver Eagles do not exist, and no Silver Eagles ever had a "DC" mint mark. 1964 Peace Dollars do not exist (according to the government) and in the unlikely event that a government-made one ever turned up it would be illegal to own (unlike mine). I could see making "1975" quarters out of some other quarters and selling them as a novelty (because no 1975-dated quarters were ever made). But making a false 1955 doubled die cent or 1922 no-D cent is something I would never do because genuine examples of those exist in the marketplace.</p><p><br /></p><p>These coins could eventually be sought-after offshoots for some advanced collectors who want something "extra" to add to their sets. And the mintages will be far lower than other coins in the host series. No more than 2,000 of the "1964-D" fantasy over-struck Peace dollars will be made. The lowest mintage Silver Eagle is the 1995-W proof, with about 30,000 minted. The production of the 2009-DC "proofed" Silver Eagles will be less than one-third of that. There are, or course, no guarantees of any kind on future values.</p><p><br /></p><p>The fact that I use a surplus Denver Mint press, and advanced engraving and minting techniques, separates these from anything issued by Chinese counterfeiters. The Chinese are blatantly counterfeiting legal-tender US coins. They take a piece of junk metal (not even silver) stamp "ONE DOLLAR" on it (as a Morgan or Peace dollar or whatever, with a date and markings the same as original genuine pieces), and then sell them as "replicas". But the "replica" stamp is just a photo-shop trick for eBay listings, and most arrive here in the USA without any "replica" or "copy" stamp. They are so cheaply made that they could manufacture them and spend them for a dollar and still make money (the traditional definition of currency counterfeiting). The Chinese pieces are counterfeits. Mine are genuine, but altered coins. Defacing genuine coins is perfectly legal, so long as it isn't for FRAUDULENT purposes. Mine are being sold with full disclosure as to their true nature.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are some pictures.</p><p><br /></p><p>First, here is a Chinese "1964" Peace Dollar (struck on junk metal - no silver content, "copy" stamp is photo-shop trick - not on actual fake):</p><p><img src="http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/8/0/4/3/7/webimg/379888837_o.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is my "1964-D" fantasy over-struck Peace dollar (struck on genuine circa 1922-1935 Peace silver dollar - no metal added or removed, just pushed around):</p><p><img src="http://www.dc-coin.com/images/products/detail/mm_100_1964d_obv.1.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://www.dc-coin.com/images/products/detail/mm_100_1964d_rev.1.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a picture of the 2009-DC "proofed" Silver Eagle (struck over a genuine non-proof US Mint 2009 Silver Eagle that originally had no mint mark):</p><p><img src="http://designscomputed.com/coin_pics/ase_2009DC_proofed.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dcarr, post: 1001525, member: 4781"]Greetings everyone, Ever since I was a coin collector kid in the 1970s, I day-dreamed about what it would be like to be able to grab a freshly-minted 1964-D Peace Silver Dollar just as it came off the press, just before dropping into the bin. Now I get to live that dream - as close as will ever be possible, anyway. Imagine how much fun it is to be able to have your way with a coin press, some original Peace Dollars (to use as "blanks"), and some "1964" dies. Now I have something I always wanted - my own "1964" Peace Dollar. I did the 2009-DC "proofed" Silver Eagles because I thought they would be neat. These and the "1964-D" fantasy over-struck coins are certainly not for everyone - only a miniority of collectors would have interest in them. But they started out as legal tender, and technically still are - but I don't in any way endorse their use as such. If you take a dollar bill and stamp "where's George" on it, it is still legal tender. If you attempt to make that dollar bill look like a $100, and then try to pass it as $100, then that is highly illegal. I'm not changing the face value of the host coins. No metal is ever added or removed. And one thing I'm NOT doing, or will ever do, is make something that actually exists. 2009 "proof" Silver Eagles do not exist, and no Silver Eagles ever had a "DC" mint mark. 1964 Peace Dollars do not exist (according to the government) and in the unlikely event that a government-made one ever turned up it would be illegal to own (unlike mine). I could see making "1975" quarters out of some other quarters and selling them as a novelty (because no 1975-dated quarters were ever made). But making a false 1955 doubled die cent or 1922 no-D cent is something I would never do because genuine examples of those exist in the marketplace. These coins could eventually be sought-after offshoots for some advanced collectors who want something "extra" to add to their sets. And the mintages will be far lower than other coins in the host series. No more than 2,000 of the "1964-D" fantasy over-struck Peace dollars will be made. The lowest mintage Silver Eagle is the 1995-W proof, with about 30,000 minted. The production of the 2009-DC "proofed" Silver Eagles will be less than one-third of that. There are, or course, no guarantees of any kind on future values. The fact that I use a surplus Denver Mint press, and advanced engraving and minting techniques, separates these from anything issued by Chinese counterfeiters. The Chinese are blatantly counterfeiting legal-tender US coins. They take a piece of junk metal (not even silver) stamp "ONE DOLLAR" on it (as a Morgan or Peace dollar or whatever, with a date and markings the same as original genuine pieces), and then sell them as "replicas". But the "replica" stamp is just a photo-shop trick for eBay listings, and most arrive here in the USA without any "replica" or "copy" stamp. They are so cheaply made that they could manufacture them and spend them for a dollar and still make money (the traditional definition of currency counterfeiting). The Chinese pieces are counterfeits. Mine are genuine, but altered coins. Defacing genuine coins is perfectly legal, so long as it isn't for FRAUDULENT purposes. Mine are being sold with full disclosure as to their true nature. Here are some pictures. First, here is a Chinese "1964" Peace Dollar (struck on junk metal - no silver content, "copy" stamp is photo-shop trick - not on actual fake): [IMG]http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/8/0/4/3/7/webimg/379888837_o.jpg[/IMG] Here is my "1964-D" fantasy over-struck Peace dollar (struck on genuine circa 1922-1935 Peace silver dollar - no metal added or removed, just pushed around): [IMG]http://www.dc-coin.com/images/products/detail/mm_100_1964d_obv.1.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.dc-coin.com/images/products/detail/mm_100_1964d_rev.1.jpg[/IMG] Here is a picture of the 2009-DC "proofed" Silver Eagle (struck over a genuine non-proof US Mint 2009 Silver Eagle that originally had no mint mark): [IMG]http://designscomputed.com/coin_pics/ase_2009DC_proofed.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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