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<p>[QUOTE="chrisild, post: 1270698, member: 39"]No, and no. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> First of all, the VAT is paid by the "end consumer" - that means, if I (being a collector, and in the EU, but not a dealer) buy a coin from the Monnaie de Paris, I pay the French TVA. A dealer will provide his tax ID, and not pay the tax - but if that dealer then sells the coin, he will have to pay the local VAT. And if the net prices are the same, it may even pay off to not buy from the MdP, as the French TVA on coins is 19.6 percent while the German USt on coins is 7 percent.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now if you are located outside the EU (there is no such thing as a "European Economic Community" - it is simply called European Union; the EEC and the EC were predecessors so to say), you do not pay the TVA as a MdP customer. Not all mints/dealers will do this though; if you walk into a coin shop and buy a piece, you will simply pay the full price. Whether you can get the tax refund is then basically your business.</p><p><br /></p><p>That being said, if the OP does not want to buy from MdP directly, there may be alternatives such as EuroCollections (Downies in the US so to say) <a href="http://www.eurocollections.com/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.eurocollections.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.eurocollections.com/</a> or the RSM (neither royal nor Scandinavian nor a mint, but in the US <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> ) <a href="http://rsmint.com/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rsmint.com/" rel="nofollow">http://rsmint.com/</a> . If they don't list the piece, it may still be worth asking ...</p><p><br /></p><p>(Edit) Apparently the €10 piece is sold out at the Monnaie de Paris ("Tirage épuisé"), and the two US dealers I mentioned do not list it. Here are two offers from MA-Shops, but these two dealers are in Germany, and shipping to the US would be somewhat expensive:</p><p><a href="http://www.ma-shops.de/berk/item.php5?id=20" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ma-shops.de/berk/item.php5?id=20" rel="nofollow">http://www.ma-shops.de/berk/item.php5?id=20</a></p><p><a href="http://www.ma-shops.de/poetz/item.php5?id=543" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ma-shops.de/poetz/item.php5?id=543" rel="nofollow">http://www.ma-shops.de/poetz/item.php5?id=543</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Christian[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="chrisild, post: 1270698, member: 39"]No, and no. :) First of all, the VAT is paid by the "end consumer" - that means, if I (being a collector, and in the EU, but not a dealer) buy a coin from the Monnaie de Paris, I pay the French TVA. A dealer will provide his tax ID, and not pay the tax - but if that dealer then sells the coin, he will have to pay the local VAT. And if the net prices are the same, it may even pay off to not buy from the MdP, as the French TVA on coins is 19.6 percent while the German USt on coins is 7 percent. Now if you are located outside the EU (there is no such thing as a "European Economic Community" - it is simply called European Union; the EEC and the EC were predecessors so to say), you do not pay the TVA as a MdP customer. Not all mints/dealers will do this though; if you walk into a coin shop and buy a piece, you will simply pay the full price. Whether you can get the tax refund is then basically your business. That being said, if the OP does not want to buy from MdP directly, there may be alternatives such as EuroCollections (Downies in the US so to say) [url]http://www.eurocollections.com/[/url] or the RSM (neither royal nor Scandinavian nor a mint, but in the US :) ) [url]http://rsmint.com/[/url] . If they don't list the piece, it may still be worth asking ... (Edit) Apparently the €10 piece is sold out at the Monnaie de Paris ("Tirage épuisé"), and the two US dealers I mentioned do not list it. Here are two offers from MA-Shops, but these two dealers are in Germany, and shipping to the US would be somewhat expensive: [url]http://www.ma-shops.de/berk/item.php5?id=20[/url] [url]http://www.ma-shops.de/poetz/item.php5?id=543[/url] Christian[/QUOTE]
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