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<p>[QUOTE="Rick Stachowski, post: 2666333, member: 42872"]Here's one on a clash</p><p><br /></p><p><b><i>In The News ...</i></b></p><p><b>2000 'Extra Beard' Attribution Reversed!</b></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://conecaonline.org//image/2000P1cExtraBeardAr400W.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Photos © Ken Potter 2008/Coin courtesy of James P. McCarthy</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://conecaonline.org//content/20001cMadClashbyBJNeff.doc" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://conecaonline.org//content/20001cMadClashbyBJNeff.doc" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://conecaonline.org//image/20001cOverlayBJNeff.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></a></p><p><a href="http://conecaonline.org//content/20001cMadClashbyBJNeff.doc" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://conecaonline.org//content/20001cMadClashbyBJNeff.doc" rel="nofollow">Click one the image above to see Neff's analysis of this MAD Clash</a></p><p>Overlay created courtesy of B.J. Neff</p><p><br /></p><p> February 28, 2008 -- <b>(Revised to add more information March 05, 2008)</b> A number of researchers who attributed a 2000 Lincoln cent as a doubled die obverse with an "extra beard" just weeks ago have unanimously reversed their opinions of it being attributed as such and have reattributed it as a clashed die (with most or all suggesting it is a clash from misaligned dies or what is often referred to as a MAD Clash). Researchers who originally suggested that the coin was a doubled die based their opinions on the fact that overlays seemed to neatly fit the area of the so-called extra beard into another area of the beard. However, soon after the variety was first publicized, folks started finding more examples with a so-called extra beard doubled die from other dies with obvious clash marks. So many were found with clash marks that a clash had to be considered as a possible cause. A closer look at examples struck from the same dies as the original find also showed traces of clash but they were minor and overlooked as trivial. Several hobby specialists created overlays of what a clash might look like, and overlays with the dies a bit misaligned started to look like the answer. Researcher, Ken Potter created preliminary overlays from images of a 2005-D Lincoln cent he borrowed from the US Mint's website and after a bit of playing around was able to recreate what appeared to approximately illustrate how the obverse and reverse dies were lined up when they clashed. Potter said, "You have to look closely and visualize where the field areas at the edges of the columns and around the Lincoln statue in the Memorial building are to piece it together mentally. Another CONECA researcher, B.J. Neff fine-tuned overlays that he created and are shown above. His entire account with a detailed analysis complete with photomicrographic overlays with arrows of the areas in question can be accessed via the link at the end of this article. CONECA member-researcher, Billy Crawford, also created extensive overlays along with an extensive account of what created this aberration and others that are similar. The link to his work is also at the end of this article.</p><p> The fact that attributers all agreed "too quickly" on this being a doubled die was definitely a part of the problem of it being misattributed by so many so quickly. The fact that the "doubling" seemed to "fit" into the design was an even bigger part of the problem. It is a lesson that reaffirms what many researchers already know, which is that overlays that "fit" do not always necessarily confirm a variety even when they seem to do so at first glance." </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://conecaonline.org//image/2000P1cCDOR01800Ar500.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Photo © Ken Potter 2008 / Coin courtesy of Susan Headley</p><p><i>Above is an example of a 2000 Lincoln Cent with a "normal" clash die sent in by Susan Headley of <a href="http://www.coins.about.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coins.about.com" rel="nofollow">www.coins.about.com</a>. Here we see the rectangular shaped area (from a bay of the Memorial building on the reverse) pointed out by the red arrows below the ear. This is the typical area to see this aberration on many recent date Lincolns with clashed dies. The so-called extra beard is also present on this specimen but much lower than on the MAD Clash version. They are pointed out by the yellow arrows. The uppermost red arrow points to yet another clash mark. Interestingly, clash marks of the character pointed out by the yellow arrows have not yet been reported to us on other dates, which may be one of the reasons they were not noticed on the series until recently. We will report further as we learn more so stay tuned in!</i></p><p><br /></p><p> Attributers who have de-listed the 2000 Lincoln cent variety shown above as being a doubled die include, John Wexler, James Wiles (CONECA), Ken Potter, Billy Crawford and Bob Piazza (of <a href="http://www.CopperCoins.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.CopperCoins.com" rel="nofollow">www.CopperCoins.com</a>). Credit should be given to all of the attributers involved in the research of this coin for nipping this misattribution in the bud before it became firmly entrenched into the hobby as a doubled die.</p><p> With all this said, it is interesting to note that the reevaluation of the variety from a doubled die to a MAD Clash has not particularly destroyed its stature as a collectable. A MAD Clash is a rather elusive class of variety in itself and we expect that collectors will continue to look for these and collect them.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://conecaonline.org//content/20001cMadClashbyBJNeff.doc" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://conecaonline.org//content/20001cMadClashbyBJNeff.doc" rel="nofollow">Read B. J. Neff's In-Depth Analysis On The Topic Here</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://home.sc.rr.com/stereo3dgames/DVN_Supplement_1.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://home.sc.rr.com/stereo3dgames/DVN_Supplement_1.pdf" rel="nofollow">Read Billy Crawford's Excellent Update On The Variety Here</a> (Tip: Right click and save this document to your hard drive or a disc if you want to read it later as Crawford's Die Variety News' issues are not held permanently on the web as they are replaced with newer issues.</p><p><br /></p><p>Note: A very educational article on this subject by John Wexler can also be found on pages 23-25 of the March 31 issue of Coin World.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Rick Stachowski, post: 2666333, member: 42872"]Here's one on a clash [B][I]In The News ...[/I][/B] [B]2000 'Extra Beard' Attribution Reversed![/B] [IMG]http://conecaonline.org//image/2000P1cExtraBeardAr400W.jpg[/IMG] Photos © Ken Potter 2008/Coin courtesy of James P. McCarthy [URL='http://conecaonline.org//content/20001cMadClashbyBJNeff.doc'][IMG]http://conecaonline.org//image/20001cOverlayBJNeff.jpg[/IMG] Click one the image above to see Neff's analysis of this MAD Clash[/URL] Overlay created courtesy of B.J. Neff February 28, 2008 -- [B](Revised to add more information March 05, 2008)[/B] A number of researchers who attributed a 2000 Lincoln cent as a doubled die obverse with an "extra beard" just weeks ago have unanimously reversed their opinions of it being attributed as such and have reattributed it as a clashed die (with most or all suggesting it is a clash from misaligned dies or what is often referred to as a MAD Clash). Researchers who originally suggested that the coin was a doubled die based their opinions on the fact that overlays seemed to neatly fit the area of the so-called extra beard into another area of the beard. However, soon after the variety was first publicized, folks started finding more examples with a so-called extra beard doubled die from other dies with obvious clash marks. So many were found with clash marks that a clash had to be considered as a possible cause. A closer look at examples struck from the same dies as the original find also showed traces of clash but they were minor and overlooked as trivial. Several hobby specialists created overlays of what a clash might look like, and overlays with the dies a bit misaligned started to look like the answer. Researcher, Ken Potter created preliminary overlays from images of a 2005-D Lincoln cent he borrowed from the US Mint's website and after a bit of playing around was able to recreate what appeared to approximately illustrate how the obverse and reverse dies were lined up when they clashed. Potter said, "You have to look closely and visualize where the field areas at the edges of the columns and around the Lincoln statue in the Memorial building are to piece it together mentally. Another CONECA researcher, B.J. Neff fine-tuned overlays that he created and are shown above. His entire account with a detailed analysis complete with photomicrographic overlays with arrows of the areas in question can be accessed via the link at the end of this article. CONECA member-researcher, Billy Crawford, also created extensive overlays along with an extensive account of what created this aberration and others that are similar. The link to his work is also at the end of this article. The fact that attributers all agreed "too quickly" on this being a doubled die was definitely a part of the problem of it being misattributed by so many so quickly. The fact that the "doubling" seemed to "fit" into the design was an even bigger part of the problem. It is a lesson that reaffirms what many researchers already know, which is that overlays that "fit" do not always necessarily confirm a variety even when they seem to do so at first glance." [IMG]http://conecaonline.org//image/2000P1cCDOR01800Ar500.jpg[/IMG] Photo © Ken Potter 2008 / Coin courtesy of Susan Headley [I]Above is an example of a 2000 Lincoln Cent with a "normal" clash die sent in by Susan Headley of [URL='http://www.coins.about.com']www.coins.about.com[/URL]. Here we see the rectangular shaped area (from a bay of the Memorial building on the reverse) pointed out by the red arrows below the ear. This is the typical area to see this aberration on many recent date Lincolns with clashed dies. The so-called extra beard is also present on this specimen but much lower than on the MAD Clash version. They are pointed out by the yellow arrows. The uppermost red arrow points to yet another clash mark. Interestingly, clash marks of the character pointed out by the yellow arrows have not yet been reported to us on other dates, which may be one of the reasons they were not noticed on the series until recently. We will report further as we learn more so stay tuned in![/I] Attributers who have de-listed the 2000 Lincoln cent variety shown above as being a doubled die include, John Wexler, James Wiles (CONECA), Ken Potter, Billy Crawford and Bob Piazza (of [URL='http://www.CopperCoins.com']www.CopperCoins.com[/URL]). Credit should be given to all of the attributers involved in the research of this coin for nipping this misattribution in the bud before it became firmly entrenched into the hobby as a doubled die. With all this said, it is interesting to note that the reevaluation of the variety from a doubled die to a MAD Clash has not particularly destroyed its stature as a collectable. A MAD Clash is a rather elusive class of variety in itself and we expect that collectors will continue to look for these and collect them. [URL='http://conecaonline.org//content/20001cMadClashbyBJNeff.doc']Read B. J. Neff's In-Depth Analysis On The Topic Here[/URL] [URL='http://home.sc.rr.com/stereo3dgames/DVN_Supplement_1.pdf']Read Billy Crawford's Excellent Update On The Variety Here[/URL] (Tip: Right click and save this document to your hard drive or a disc if you want to read it later as Crawford's Die Variety News' issues are not held permanently on the web as they are replaced with newer issues. Note: A very educational article on this subject by John Wexler can also be found on pages 23-25 of the March 31 issue of Coin World.[/QUOTE]
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