Think what we have here is people buying the upside down errors thinking it's the smooth edge error - or at least putting it in that caliber of error (which is not right to do). What is common sense to the point of absurdity to us, is a maze of intricate confusion to the non-coin collector. But - I agree if you don't say it's an error and list them as upside down and rightside up coins and can fetch $100 for them? The seller didn't do anything wrong. Go to any coin shop and try to buy a 2007 uncirculated Washington dollar. $2 ... DOUBLE the price for buying that coin at face value! Now, granted the shop owner has to pay his bills, etc. He has a right to that premium, but still - double the price right off the get go. As long as a seller honestly describes his merchandise - then let the buyer have what he wants. Usually a 7 day no questions asked return policy is fair to both parties. After that - business is business Esky
If they are listed as upside down, even if "error" isn't used, then it isn't honest , there is no right side up or upside down on these coins. The final fault remains on the buyer though, as research is key as always.
The guy on HSN even said the upside down lettering is not an error, Unbeliveable . Also sold over 600 of the "no edge lettering" In ICG 63 for $399. Not going to say anything about it, just what I saw.
There's far too many braindead sellers selling these coins as errors,so that some suckers will be separated from their money. To say what they're doing is unethical is an understatement.To me,it is fraud. Aidan.
Today I went to the local indoor flea market which has 4 vendors that deal in coins. Just a heads-up, one vendor is selling these coins as "clock-wise" lettering vs "counter-clockwise." Interesting twist on words!
split I opened a roll to see how the split was on heads vs tails. 12 and 13 down, thats as close to 50/50 as you can get in a 25 coin roll.
This thread prompted me to look over my clad Washington quarters. No rim-lettering, thereon, of course, but guess what I discovered. Half of these are errors, too! On half of these, the copper strip is upside-down!
[QUOTE skm06 I don't know if you're just grabbing at straws to argue, but these coins do exist in that way- maybe not in the perfect wording you would have wanted to see. Esky ][/QUOTE] Not really trying to argue at all. You are right I suppose that it is just a matter of semantics, but according to the mint, there just is no right or wrong way for the edge lettering to be facing, although there will be on the proofs I guess. So, to me "upside down" implies that it is wrong, is all I meant to convey. Also, if one comes right out and states to the buyer that it is not an error, as you said in your last post, then you are right, there is no deceit there. Stating it upfront hadn't been mentioned prior to that post I don't believe.
I agree... I don't think I'm gonna click on anymore GW Dollar threads, if I get the slightest hint its about the darn edge lettering...