2007 Canadian Proof Nickel Maybe accumulations error? pretty extreme!

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  1. jjohnson3582506

    jjohnson3582506 New Member

    Can someone identify this error. Accumulations is what my research says but that error usually is only a few die chips around the date. This nickel is all lettering obverse and most of the reverse. Also, would this be something of value?


    Thanks

    Jeremy Johnson zoom 1.JPG zoom 2.JPG zoom 3.JPG zoom 4.JPG
     
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  3. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    Photos of both sides of the entire coin would help a lot. Thank you.
     
  4. SamuelFred1

    SamuelFred1 I Guess I'm Kind Of a Decent Member at This Point?

    Looks like die deterioration doubling to me.
     
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  5. Fallguy

    Fallguy Supporter! Supporter

    Could you give us a photo of the full obverse of the coin? If my guess is right and the doubling is limited to a quadrant of the coin, then I think it is some kind of true pivoted doubling.
     
  6. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    It isn't a Proof for one. Looks like die deterioration and machine doubling.
     
  7. Fallguy

    Fallguy Supporter! Supporter

    Proof? No clue. DDD on Reverse? Guess so. MD on the Obverse? Well they say, "never say never", but that certainly doesn't look like any MD I've ever seen. Of course a full view of the Obverse would help.
     
  8. jjohnson3582506

    jjohnson3582506 New Member

    Sorry for the late response will send obverse when i get home. its in my album and im at work
     
  9. jjohnson3582506

    jjohnson3582506 New Member

    Here are some more photos 2.jpg 3.jpg 4.jpg 5.jpg 6.jpg
     
  10. Fallguy

    Fallguy Supporter! Supporter

    That's a Proof and that's from a Doubled Die! (IMHO that is). Heavier on "Elizabeth" then appears to lessen. Will have to go back to the books to figure out its "Type" is. Any help from those with better memories would be appreciated. Oh, and thanks for the additional photos. BTW, the doubling on "BETH" is so pronounced, can you see it with the naked eye???
     
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  11. jjohnson3582506

    jjohnson3582506 New Member

    I sent a reply a few days ago but it’s not showing up on my end. So I’ll try again. Yes I can see it without magnification. Do you think I have a coin of value possibly? If so what would be the next step?

    thanks
     
  12. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    This is 100% die deterioration doubling.
     
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  13. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    What makes you think it’s a proof? Look up a Canadian proof nickel from 2007 and compare images.
     
  14. Fallguy

    Fallguy Supporter! Supporter

    Mr. Diamond I've followed you for years and truly appreciate your expertise. However, in the instant case I couldn't disagree more. The coin is clearly a proof and implicitly, if not explicitly significant additional care is given in the production of these coins; there is no reason to believe that wouldn't extent to the life cycle of the die. Why they didn't pick up on the fact that the die had been doubled is anybody's guess, but the reasons are probably in line with why Proofs end up being doubled in this Country.

    Now having said all of that, though I am in my 70's it is never to late to learn something new, especially when it comes to nuances of events that can generally only be obtained by many, many years of hands on experience. As such, I and I hope others, would really appreciate hearing what in your observations led to your conclusion. Semper Fidelis, John
     
  15. Fallguy

    Fallguy Supporter! Supporter

    While there doesn't appear to be a great difference in Proof and PL Canadian nickels, instead of trying to determine the category by photos, maybe we can ask the OP to put a magnet to it. At nearly 95% Steel for the Business strike and Sterling Silver for the Proof, if it sticks and sticks hard (it is possible that a SS coins composition could have up to 7.5% of a magnetic metal, so it might stick but should not stick like steel), then I humbly stand corrected:):):).
     
  16. Clawcoins

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  17. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Mike Diamond didn't say that the coin wasn't a proof.
    What he said was it is 100% die deterioration doubling. (Worthless doubling).
     
  18. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I would also like to see the results of a magnet test, as well as a weight of the coin
     
  19. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Canadian nickels from 2003- present are made out of: 94.5% steel, 3.5% copper, 2% nickel plating. So it should stick to a magnet.
     
  20. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    ...but not the proofs?
     
  21. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Do they have silver proofs?
    Then that wouldn't stick.
     
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