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<p>[QUOTE="Jral1, post: 1795770, member: 32252"]This coin very well be real trust me i have studied coins like this and have had a forensic scientist examine a coin like this and have been told there was metal flow rising from the bottom of some of the cuts and the striations on the sides of the cuts as well as no uplifting or displacement of metal in the field, relieve, rim or edge of the coin along with a number of other errors proves that this could not be done after it had the final strike done. your pics are a little blurry but i think this is the case. most people here will give you bad information and speculate thats its nothing because they hope you will spend it or give it away for nothing hopeing they or one of there buddies will get there hands on it for next to nothing and because there upset that you found it and you probably were not even looking for it while they spend massive amounts of time looking for a lucky piece insted of going out and creating there own good luck. Here is a probable way that coins like this happen and trust me they are really RARE. I have only herd about maybe five or so coins like this and less mumismatist willing to put more then a piss ant of thought into how this kind of thing may have happened to a coin like this</p><p>\</p><p>but here goes.\</p><p> </p><p>Your coin probably got stuck in the blanking punch where blank coins/planchets are made from coin stock/large metal sheets of cladded copper. It then got stuck near one of the straight edges/or corners of the punch where it was struck multiple times by the straight edge of the punch without being cut in half or clipped. Then it made its way to the upsetting mill where the planchets are rolled between a machine that makes a ''proto rim'' which is just a rounded rim on the blank coin so it is easyer for the final strike/press to sstamp/strike the design and rim into the blank coin without having to use as much pressure as would be needed to strike up enough metal to form the rim . the upsetting mill also probably rolled the coin and smothed out the damage so it was within tolerance(but still had the ''cutmarks in')' it to fit into the final press/strikeing machine that strikes the design into the blank coin/planchet with proto rim. this is why there is no signs of upliffting metal on or near any of the devices/designs/words or field of the coin or the rim or the edge of the coin and would clearly be visable by the neked eye/or loop with a good light source and you would be able to feel the sharp edges on the edge of the coin where ther reeding is all of wich woulld be seen and felt on a coin that was cut by shears or struck some kind of ''high powere aluminum cutting machine after it left the Mint.''(what a jokethat is. i think he ment ''coinstalk cutting machine''/blanking punch/ planchet maker thingamabob dohicky . I bet if you rub your fingers over the edge of the coin near the cuts you would not even feel the edge of the cuts or any roughness because the metal flows outward in all directions when the final press of the coin blank in collar(which is the part of the press that contains the coin blank while being pressed to create the final design of the coin and creates the reeding at the same time and would leave at least the edge of the coin feeling pretty normal while both faces of the coin still display the signs of the ''cutmarks''and yea ''cutmarks are part of the error coin vocab.) .I bet if you look closely you will see some metal flow in the bottom of some of the deepest cuts where it looks like the cutmarks''/striation ''healed themselfs'' by way of metal flowinto the botom of the cutmarks''. There is also other ways/ machines that could have cuased these cutmarks'' at the mint they could have been caused in the upset mill itself. the coin could have got stuck in a part of the machine it shouldnt have been in and recieved the cuts there then fell out and made it through the proper channel in the upsetting mill . There is a lot of high power/high pressure/mass cutting machines involved in the minting proccess so noone would know for sure expeically not most folks here. the only people who would know is the mint workers who usualy find these types of coins and destroy them so only they would know how coins like these happen and who knows when they do happen they may cause any number of other problems in the machines and productivity of the Mint so I would say that if this is what happend to your coin it is probably a pretty valuable ''one of a kind'' ''off chance'' ''discovery piece'' and I hope you didnt spend it or give it away or sell it for anything less then alot of money.!!!!!!! AND remember the only peoples opinion that matter are a few honest poeple that work at the coin grading places and maybe Coneca. besides that TRUST NO ONE'[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jral1, post: 1795770, member: 32252"]This coin very well be real trust me i have studied coins like this and have had a forensic scientist examine a coin like this and have been told there was metal flow rising from the bottom of some of the cuts and the striations on the sides of the cuts as well as no uplifting or displacement of metal in the field, relieve, rim or edge of the coin along with a number of other errors proves that this could not be done after it had the final strike done. your pics are a little blurry but i think this is the case. most people here will give you bad information and speculate thats its nothing because they hope you will spend it or give it away for nothing hopeing they or one of there buddies will get there hands on it for next to nothing and because there upset that you found it and you probably were not even looking for it while they spend massive amounts of time looking for a lucky piece insted of going out and creating there own good luck. Here is a probable way that coins like this happen and trust me they are really RARE. I have only herd about maybe five or so coins like this and less mumismatist willing to put more then a piss ant of thought into how this kind of thing may have happened to a coin like this \ but here goes.\ Your coin probably got stuck in the blanking punch where blank coins/planchets are made from coin stock/large metal sheets of cladded copper. It then got stuck near one of the straight edges/or corners of the punch where it was struck multiple times by the straight edge of the punch without being cut in half or clipped. Then it made its way to the upsetting mill where the planchets are rolled between a machine that makes a ''proto rim'' which is just a rounded rim on the blank coin so it is easyer for the final strike/press to sstamp/strike the design and rim into the blank coin without having to use as much pressure as would be needed to strike up enough metal to form the rim . the upsetting mill also probably rolled the coin and smothed out the damage so it was within tolerance(but still had the ''cutmarks in')' it to fit into the final press/strikeing machine that strikes the design into the blank coin/planchet with proto rim. this is why there is no signs of upliffting metal on or near any of the devices/designs/words or field of the coin or the rim or the edge of the coin and would clearly be visable by the neked eye/or loop with a good light source and you would be able to feel the sharp edges on the edge of the coin where ther reeding is all of wich woulld be seen and felt on a coin that was cut by shears or struck some kind of ''high powere aluminum cutting machine after it left the Mint.''(what a jokethat is. i think he ment ''coinstalk cutting machine''/blanking punch/ planchet maker thingamabob dohicky . I bet if you rub your fingers over the edge of the coin near the cuts you would not even feel the edge of the cuts or any roughness because the metal flows outward in all directions when the final press of the coin blank in collar(which is the part of the press that contains the coin blank while being pressed to create the final design of the coin and creates the reeding at the same time and would leave at least the edge of the coin feeling pretty normal while both faces of the coin still display the signs of the ''cutmarks''and yea ''cutmarks are part of the error coin vocab.) .I bet if you look closely you will see some metal flow in the bottom of some of the deepest cuts where it looks like the cutmarks''/striation ''healed themselfs'' by way of metal flowinto the botom of the cutmarks''. There is also other ways/ machines that could have cuased these cutmarks'' at the mint they could have been caused in the upset mill itself. the coin could have got stuck in a part of the machine it shouldnt have been in and recieved the cuts there then fell out and made it through the proper channel in the upsetting mill . There is a lot of high power/high pressure/mass cutting machines involved in the minting proccess so noone would know for sure expeically not most folks here. the only people who would know is the mint workers who usualy find these types of coins and destroy them so only they would know how coins like these happen and who knows when they do happen they may cause any number of other problems in the machines and productivity of the Mint so I would say that if this is what happend to your coin it is probably a pretty valuable ''one of a kind'' ''off chance'' ''discovery piece'' and I hope you didnt spend it or give it away or sell it for anything less then alot of money.!!!!!!! AND remember the only peoples opinion that matter are a few honest poeple that work at the coin grading places and maybe Coneca. besides that TRUST NO ONE'[/QUOTE]
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