2006 American eagle unc- a big gain for collectors

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  1. Ed Goldman

    Ed Goldman coin collector

    This is an investers thing, not a collectors thing..
     
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  3. bama guy

    bama guy Coin Hoarder

    have to be minted in '06 but can sell them in '07. stock pile key word
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not unless they changed the law they can't. But maybe they did change it, to be honest I don't know. But I will look it up.
     
  5. samjimmy

    samjimmy New Member

    So the bottom line is that the mintages for the -W AGE are going to be low, compared to other years' mintages for the non -W AGE. Bad news is that all of them are being sold to collectors or collector/investors so they aren't going to be rare, just fewer of them than others if you collect this sort of thing.

    Which I don't really...
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Apparently, they did change it - not only that, it looks like they changed a bit more even.


    TITLE 31 > SUBTITLE IV > CHAPTER 51 > SUBCHAPTER II > § 5112

    § 5112. Denominations, specifications, and design of coins

    ( i )

    (4)

    (A) Notwithstanding any other provision of law and subject to subparagraph (B), the Secretary of the Treasury may change the diameter, weight, or design of any coin minted under this subsection or the fineness of the gold in the alloy of any such coin if the Secretary determines that the specific diameter, weight, design, or fineness of gold which differs from that otherwise required by law is appropriate for such coin.
    (B) The Secretary may not mint any coin with respect to which a determination has been made by the Secretary under subparagraph (A) before the end of the 30-day period beginning on the date a notice of such determination is published in the Federal Register.
    (C) The Secretary may continue to mint and issue coins in accordance with the specifications contained in paragraphs (7), (8), (9), and (10) of subsection (a) and paragraph (1)(A) of this subsection at the same time the Secretary in minting and issuing other bullion and proof gold coins under this subsection in accordance with such program procedures and coin specifications, designs, varieties, quantities, denominations, and inscriptions as the Secretary, in the Secretary’s discretion, may prescribe from time to time.
     
  7. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper


    Doug..thanks for the post. That info is published for all to see under the legislative label if you will.
    What folks should do is not worry too much about the mintage of these bullion coins. The way it looks from the mintage standpoint is that the previous low was in 1991 and we all know what that coin goes for! There are differences between the 1991 bullion coin and the 2006 "W" Uncirc coin by means of planchet preparation and now the "W" MM.
    If the mintages hold to an all time low for the fractions it will be or remain a bullion coin geared towards investors like myself. Will there be $$$$ increases? More than likely over time. There are now three types/finishes of AGE to collect and that (finishes) will segregate them just as the proof and BU finishes have before. Investor interest and AGE collectors will want to have them for their sets..(I do, no doubt) but...............
    will they be a super rare coin..nahhhh. Just a low mintage modern AGE with MS 68,69 and 70 titles!
    It should be interesting to see these several years down the road...The Mints web site is showing the Uncirculated Eagles to be made in March or April 2007, I bet the 2006 "W" uncirculated coins will be sold up to that point and then discontinued. Do not know that for sure but just a observation of past performance from the mint.
    So those who are interested..go get em...if not well there will be plenty to choose from as the mint keeps cranking them out!!

    RickieB
     
  8. bama guy

    bama guy Coin Hoarder

    I know from personal experience that i purchased a '05 and '06 proof silver set from the mint on the same day. that was last week. Think it took one of their acts to bring it back

    would hate to think that they could mint coins with an '06 date in '07. Other than being unethical, sounds like counterfeiting to me. Of course this is the mint.

    really do not think the '06 sets will last much longer

    Unless i have bee terribly misinformed the commeratives can not be sold by the mint after the year in which they were designated but the regular issue coins can be as long as they have a supply

    please correct if i am inaccurate
     
  9. tracy5900

    tracy5900 Coin Hoarder

    collector reminder

    forget about the set. the rare thing is the single coin with pouch, box and coa. the set contained a box for all four coins & one coa. if they break up the set. you will know it. simple as that. don't buy them. only the single coin is worth much. remember the silver proof statehood five pieces quarter. without the box is of different price. and the commem single silver dollar pricing is quite different than that of 2 pc set or 3 pc set. because they are considered different. that's all. if the set reached 12,000. all denomination will still be the lowest against previous years.
     
  10. tracy5900

    tracy5900 Coin Hoarder

    gold and silver down

    with gold and silver down this week. it will help the sales of w unc gold slow down.
     
  11. andrew289

    andrew289 Senior Analyst

    This logic doesn't seem quite right.
    The box/pouch doesn't matter. Buy the coin, not the pouch.
    It's the same coin.
    Once slabbed who cares where it came from?
    The coin is worth what the coin is worth regardless of where it came from.
     
  12. kidkayt

    kidkayt Senior Member

    Just a quick question about the mintages for the 2006W vs. 2007W. Will they be
    comparable? Will it depend upon demand, and also the longer period of mintage
    for 2007 compared with 2006?

    Cheers All
     
  13. holz

    holz holz

    Mintage numbers for Gold and Platinum??

    When I look at the $5 Gold mintage for 2002.

    Proof W is listed 40,864
    UNC is listed at 230,027

    Does the Proof Mintage of 40,864 include the number produced in the four piece gold proof set????
     
  14. tracy5900

    tracy5900 Coin Hoarder

    mintages

    yes, it was included. and most of others were also included. thus, it is better to do your own calculation. sometimes they forgot.
     
  15. CentDime

    CentDime Coin Hoarder

    If we go by half of what they did with the proof gold in 2006, the initial numbers could be for the 2007W UNC gold

    1 oz 6000
    1/2 oz 5000
    1/4 oz 6000
    1/10 oz 12,500
    4 coin 13,500

    for totals of

    1 oz 19,500
    1/2 oz 18,500
    1/4 oz 19,500
    1/10 oz 26,000

    2006 W gold numbers may end up:

    1 oz 46,500
    1/2 oz 13,900
    1/4 oz 14,800
    1/10 oz 21,000

    assuming 10.5K 4 set mintage. So the 2006W is still lower, but not by much. I assume they will sell out the 2006W eventually and the 2007W will also go as the lower mintages compared to the bullion force collectors to buy these. However they may mint more if you are correct so the 2007W could be even far higher depending on how well the 2007W sells. At least the 2006W should come in lower [except for the one ounce] regardless of what they do later in 2007.
     
  16. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Those are pretty accurate Centdime...
    I just came from my local dealers shoppe and he has 15 ea of the Uncirc "W" fractions! I asked him for an additional 1/2 oz and his reply was that they are not for sale!! What does that tell you? Can you say 1500 to 2000 by this time next year!! All things are possible. The heck with the little bag..I am going to order another set right now!!

    Get em while you can..anyway that you can!!!

    RickieB :smile
     
  17. alhas

    alhas Senior Member

    1. I believe, RickieB has accurately suggested in his 1/4/2007 post not to compare AGE Unc w to the Proof or the Bullion coins. Being a new release in 2006, the AGE Unc w, establishes itself as a new benchmark to compare with in the future.

    2. In my opinion, year 2006 has introduced too many choices, therefore too much supply! The question is: will there be demand for all these products? As the proof and unc coins are normally positioned for the collector community, are there enough $'s to keep the demand high?
     
  18. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    the question is i am out of money right now would you guys recommend i buy it anyway and put it on my card even if i cant pay it back for at least 6 months? thanks.
     
  19. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Only you Dear Spock can make that call....;)

    RickieB
     
  20. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    I know but what i want to know is what would you guys do if you were in a similar predicamnet?
     
  21. andrew289

    andrew289 Senior Analyst

    No, no, no, no, no and no, I would never advise anyone to extend credit. The interest payments will cut into any possible gains. Try a home equity loan. The payments are more managable and the interest is tax deductable.

    Ok ...before you say ...yeah ..that's a great idea...it was A JOKE.

    Don't mortgage the farm for some stupid coins. If you can't afford them when they are available ...don't buy them. It's that simple. Well that's the way I look at it. I admit it's frustrating when all this good stuff hits the shelves at the same time...but darn it. I need to eat and the wife needs a new pair of shoes! Maybe she could go barefoot for 3-4 months...lol.

    Pay as you go.


    I would not buy ..its that simple.

    In my honest opinion, when a man reaches for his credit card to buy coins, he needs an intervention. The hobby is reaching the level of obsession and he needs serious counseling before it ruins his family life. I've seen coin addiction reach the level of alcoholism. It happens and there is nothing wrong with asking for help before you get into serious credit card debt. It's not worth it.
     
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