Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Dustin mize, Aug 14, 2022.
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Eyes have necks?
Just kidding. Not RPM
Edit.. After reading another post by @expat I was reminded why it can't be a RPM. Oops my mistake.
Mintmarks were not re-punched in 2002. The mintmarks were no longer punched into the created master dies after 1990.
I explained why your coin cannot be a RPM
Simple.. Die Deterioration
It IS NOT a repunched mm.
A coin can only be an error/variety if you CAN explain how it occurred during the minting or die making process. You were given correct answers by members who are knowledgeable of those processes.
As @expat said, the mint stopped hand punching mms into working dies in 1990. The mm is added to the master die, so it CANNOT be repunched. If you aren't familiar with working dies, working hubs, master dies and master hubs read about the die making process at www.doubleddie.com. So, how can a RPM occur at the mint in 2002? We'll be waiting for your explanation
The mint is a high speed manufacturing process, striking multiple coins every SECOND. Basically, the strike time is very short and there isn't enough time for metal to completely fill some of the devices, especially out near the rims. Combine that with worn dies and you can get this effect.
A friendly word of advice...and not to seem that I am putting you down.. However I read your post and understanding that you couldn't find anything on an 02 D RPM. The you had some well known members give you an answer to your inquiry.
The answers arent going to change...as it is what it is... and it isnt a rpm.
As a new member and we the membership here are more than willing to help anyone...who is willing to accept the advice...I am a variety collector for over 50 + years...and I still ask my friends here for their opinions...and yes at times dont want to accept...but again when all signs point to yes or no thats it.
Just some friendly advice for the future...as bucking the members who are trying to help you is going to hurt you more than help. Research is your friend....and coin collecting is a tad bit more than placing medal disc in a dated hole. We are here to help and educate....but most of all we want this hobby to be enjoyable and continue to be a hobby...that has a huge following...not a has been hobby thats only found in history books. Feel free to PM me any questions about your finds...I be more than happy to give you an answer or point you to it... or find the correct answer together so we both be enlighten to whats correct.
Regarding error coins, there are almost infinite ways for a coin to be damaged or have some type of process variability. Many times, it is nearly impossible to tell the true cause. That's why I feel it's a waste of time to try to speculate on what is causing damage or variability.
The best way to determine if a coin is an error is to explain how it could occur during the minting process. In your case, that couldn't be done. Don't forget, a lot of members have decades of experience and are very knowledgeable of the manufacturing process. Even if somebody posts an incorrect answer, there will be others that will quickly correct it. If you see 2 or 3 members giving you the same answer, you can be very confident that it's correct.
Not sure of your experience level, but I would recommend spending some of your searching time learning and studying the minting and die making processes. It will save you a lot if time in the future. Try these for starters
@Oldhoopster was not trying to preach to you. He was passing on some of the trusted informational sites for you to study. By digesting the contents of the various sections, you will have started to learn how and when legitimate errors and varieties occur, how to recognise die wear and deterioration issues and to separate the damage, circulation and environmental issues.
A real simple reply from you would have been ThankYou, not antagonism.
While you may think this is only about you, other new collectors also read these threads and could find that info useful, even if you don't.
Regarding giving a simple answer; you were given accurate, short answers in the first few posts, but you kept asking for more explanation.
Well, someone else to add to the ignore list. Hopefully, there aren't too many other members that do the same. Nobody enjoys taking the time to help someone only to get criticized. Best of luck moving forward
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