2002 D/D Jefferson nickle

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Dustin mize, Aug 14, 2022.

  1. Dustin mize

    Dustin mize New Member

    I have to what I this is a 2002 D/D Jefferson nickle. You can't see it with the necked eye but with microscope you can see what I talking about 20220813_214205.jpg 20220813_214141.jpg 20220813_213933.jpg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Eyes have necks? o_O

    Just kidding. Not RPM

    Edit.. After reading another post by @expat I was reminded why it can't be a RPM. Oops my mistake.
     
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  4. Dustin mize

    Dustin mize New Member

    The bad thi g I can't find anything on an 2002 d RPM anywhere
     
  5. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Mintmarks were not re-punched in 2002. The mintmarks were no longer punched into the created master dies after 1990.
     
  6. Dustin mize

    Dustin mize New Member

    Yeah but there are two d's on mine you can see that plain as daylight. So how do you explain why my coin has what looks like a RPM
     
  7. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    I explained why your coin cannot be a RPM
     
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  8. Dustin mize

    Dustin mize New Member

    I ask can you explain why it looks like a RPM not that is is a RPM
     
  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Simple.. Die Deterioration
     
  10. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    @Dustin mize

    It IS NOT a repunched mm.

    A coin can only be an error/variety if you CAN explain how it occurred during the minting or die making process. You were given correct answers by members who are knowledgeable of those processes.

    As @expat said, the mint stopped hand punching mms into working dies in 1990. The mm is added to the master die, so it CANNOT be repunched. If you aren't familiar with working dies, working hubs, master dies and master hubs read about the die making process at www.doubleddie.com. So, how can a RPM occur at the mint in 2002? We'll be waiting for your explanation

    The mint is a high speed manufacturing process, striking multiple coins every SECOND. Basically, the strike time is very short and there isn't enough time for metal to completely fill some of the devices, especially out near the rims. Combine that with worn dies and you can get this effect.
     
  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Hey brother can you spare a half dime?

    Dustin
    A friendly word of advice...and not to seem that I am putting you down.. However I read your post and understanding that you couldn't find anything on an 02 D RPM. The you had some well known members give you an answer to your inquiry.
    The answers arent going to change...as it is what it is... and it isnt a rpm.
    As a new member and we the membership here are more than willing to help anyone...who is willing to accept the advice...I am a variety collector for over 50 + years...and I still ask my friends here for their opinions...and yes at times dont want to accept...but again when all signs point to yes or no thats it.
    Just some friendly advice for the future...as bucking the members who are trying to help you is going to hurt you more than help. Research is your friend....and coin collecting is a tad bit more than placing medal disc in a dated hole. We are here to help and educate....but most of all we want this hobby to be enjoyable and continue to be a hobby...that has a huge following...not a has been hobby thats only found in history books. Feel free to PM me any questions about your finds...I be more than happy to give you an answer or point you to it... or find the correct answer together so we both be enlighten to whats correct.
     
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  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It was minted by a worn die. That creates movement and you end up with what appears to be a doubled die. It’s not and not an RPM either. And the correct spelling is NICKEL.
     
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  13. Dustin mize

    Dustin mize New Member

    See you guys got me all wrong I wasn't saying anyone was wrong that it's not a RPM. I was asking why does it look like one and you finally gave me and asker after you all read int my quest to much and got offended which I wasn't correcting anyone or telling them what my coin was. Next time ease read clearly what the question is before you start jumping down someone throat and put words In there mouth that they never said
     
  14. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Regarding error coins, there are almost infinite ways for a coin to be damaged or have some type of process variability. Many times, it is nearly impossible to tell the true cause. That's why I feel it's a waste of time to try to speculate on what is causing damage or variability.

    The best way to determine if a coin is an error is to explain how it could occur during the minting process. In your case, that couldn't be done. Don't forget, a lot of members have decades of experience and are very knowledgeable of the manufacturing process. Even if somebody posts an incorrect answer, there will be others that will quickly correct it. If you see 2 or 3 members giving you the same answer, you can be very confident that it's correct.

    Not sure of your experience level, but I would recommend spending some of your searching time learning and studying the minting and die making processes. It will save you a lot if time in the future. Try these for starters

    https://www.doubleddie.com/58201.html
    https://www.usmint.gov/learn/production-process/die-making
    https://www.coinnews.net/2014/01/06/how-the-denver-mint-makes-dies-to-produce-coins/
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=104&v=mqPvKxJXC_Y&feature=emb_title
     
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  15. Dustin mize

    Dustin mize New Member

    You need to quit preaching so much on what's on head. Really there is no reason to write a book to explain something or to put your thought into someone's question. It would have been real simple answer that the die could have been damaged would have been fine.
     
  16. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    @Oldhoopster was not trying to preach to you. He was passing on some of the trusted informational sites for you to study. By digesting the contents of the various sections, you will have started to learn how and when legitimate errors and varieties occur, how to recognise die wear and deterioration issues and to separate the damage, circulation and environmental issues.
    A real simple reply from you would have been ThankYou, not antagonism.
     
  17. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    While you may think this is only about you, other new collectors also read these threads and could find that info useful, even if you don't.

    Regarding giving a simple answer; you were given accurate, short answers in the first few posts, but you kept asking for more explanation.

    Well, someone else to add to the ignore list. Hopefully, there aren't too many other members that do the same. Nobody enjoys taking the time to help someone only to get criticized. Best of luck moving forward
     
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