2000P Nickel Die Clash

WOW!! Some people are really set in their ways. Ignore the proof and stick to what you might see. :hatch:

 

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Hi,

Just be sure that you refer the folks at PCGS to Mike, or Fred. They sometimes get unusual error coins labeled incorrectly and this nickel is not a run of the mill die clash.

As an example, a friend of mine recently sent a major and well known 1994 DDR cent to NGC and they sent it back saying that it wasn't the coin it was purported to be. It was identified by several dealers as being the 1994 DDR we all know and love , with the extra columns, as seen in the Cherrypickers' guide. It came back unattributed with just a grade on the slab.

Thanks,
Bill

 

That;s right Rocky I want you to explain those impressions on the obverse and reverse of the nickle What do you think would do that extreme force with a hammer MY THEORY i will not repeat myself again .


When i see a simular die pair like this one with those impressions ,then i will shut my mouth
and Mike claims he seen one ,but were's the Pic . I would think it should be on record if another one simular to this was found .

A major occurance and unusually occurance I would assume it should be listed in the coneca files or any files for that matter .





When they see that coin with those impressions I bet they will bodybag it if they don;t then it got away as a authentic die clash For your information there are plenty of coins that are slabbed that are probably not authentic errors TO MAKE BUCKS. :goofer::goofer::goofer:

Jazzcoins joe


PS i didn't want to show this pic again OH well


My finale post in this thread

Have FUN

 

So now all of the PCGS staff will be wrong if this doesn't get bodybagged?

 

jazzy; I know that was about your third 'last post in this thread', but I thought I would clarify my standing on my decision for a die clash on this coin.
First, if it was a hammer/squeeze job how would the letters get here?

Next, why wouldn't these letters be mashed as well?

And finally, how did these letters maintain their shape?


And the question about the marks you are noticing, maybe.

 

Rockdude
I have asked those question of him before in this thread (see page 4 of this thread), and have not received a reply . His only response has been hammer job and that is what he is sticking to. The reason I asked these question is to try and learn and see why he says a hammer job could allow them to happen that way.

Dave

 

JAZZCOINS

You were asked three specific questions in post #65.

Why don't you answer them?

 

Jazz
Why are you avoiding the issues on the rest of the coin? I am not trying to cause conflict or trouble, but I am REALLY curious as to why if it is a hammer job the rest of the coin does not show the type of damage you would expect to see. At least I would expect to see with my limited knowledge of this subject.
Right now I am very tempted to take three of the Nickels I have out of this bag and experiment by creating a hammer job to see the out come. But I willing to bet, that when and I do, I will not get even close to the same results I see on this coin, but will damage on both the obverse and reverse lettering as well, which as you can see you do not have on this coin

Thanks
Dave

 

I just went out to the garage to try this experiment but didn't have to follow through because i came to this realization. Those marks that jazz keeps refering to CAN'T be hammer marks because the hammer is used on the outside of the three coin sandwich. The coin on which the hammer mark shows up on won't have any other markings because there is no coin between the hammer and the face to make the other markings.
The two outer coins would have clashmarks only on one side and a hammer mark on the other. only the center coin, which is never directly hit by the hammer would show clash markings on both sides, therefor even if created by the hammer method (which it wasn't) then this coin would not have hammer marks in those locations.

Richard

 

Yep maybe a plane crashed on it, or Godzilla stepped on it.

 

Well, I decided to sacrifice some nickels. These were done with a 10 lb sledge with nowhere the detail of the OP. You will notice, however the clashes show on the HIGH points and not the low. there also is no sign of where the hammer hit.

Richard

 

Imagine that. Thanks for the sacrifice ziggy

 

....and the word is similar not simular....

...."kinda" like nuclear and not nucular.....

.....Also, nickel, not nickle.....

.....Occurrence not occurance....

Shakespeare was a poor speller as well, so those that can't spell are in good company



I couldn't help but point that out.

Of course "kinda" is not a real word so I thought I would point that out on my own

 

This is directed to found in rolls or seedless rolls


I advise you to stop the insults seedless rolls the reason for the spelling I type fast and i don;t correct my mistakes.//

Anda whata youa wanta ima froma thea bronxa Newa Yorka:hammer::hammer::hammer:
hammera joba


THIS IS FOR zIGGY 9
I don;t care if you did that to the coin it still does'nt prove anything to me your method could have been wrong Why are you trying so hard to prove this ?

The individual that did the op's coin could have devised,a new method in stricking the coin and making those incused images appear were they are on the coin. There are alot of individuals that would try there hardest to make a fake error to fool you so maybe this person came up with a different method could you prove that one

I really can;t wait for the op to send it out i hope he sends it out to somebody that really knows what there looking at i would love to see another example of this coin die pair were;s the prove were;s the records on the coin Somebody said he seen one just like it were is it listed

NOWHERE

When the op gets the coin back we will see

Jazzcoins Joe

Ps Notice there are no spelling mistakes i typed very slow this time seedless rolls

Have FUN

 

the question is why do you keep insisting its fake no matter how much evidence is given?

 

Sounds good....

 

Wow...I'm off line for awhile and miss it all.

I'm glad to hear your sending it to PCGS!! When you get it back post some pic's.... I may be interested in posting photos and a write up on VarietyNickels if you were to agree.

I'm out of internet right now, so I'll PM you here shortly..

Speedy

 

Thank you GD I will sir


Jazzcoins Joe