2000P Nickel Die Clash

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Digenes, Jan 27, 2009.

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  1. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Dave,

    I am glad to hear that you contacted Fred and he agreed on the assessment of the coin! Per chance, did you ask for and did he give a possible value? I know that he is very busy person and probably gets more emails about errors than Coin Talk gets posts but him and Mike Byers are two of the top Error coin buyers and sellers out there and if anyone could put a possible value on the coin, it would be them.

    When submitting the coin to PCGS, I would be concerned as to whether they view the areas in the center of the Obverse and Reverse as Strike-Through errors or damage! As Mike Diamond stated "There is weakness that occurs in the center of both the obverse and the reverse face. As best as I can tell from studying my own specimen, these areas of weakness represent strike-through errors.", therefore, his assistance may be needed when submitting the coin to PCGS, so that they will not view this as damage and bodybag the coin.


    Good luck...Frank

    P.S. Is there any way that you could post full size (I mean screen size) photos of the coin on Photobucket or another Picture sharing website and post links to the photos? I think that full size pictures of the Obverse and Reverse would truly show the enormity of the Die Clashing on the coin!

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  3. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Well lets see you specimen Mike please post it i would like to see it

    jazzcoins
     
  4. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    There's no point, as it is exactly the same. I've seen at least one other nickel struck by this die pair.

     
  5. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    I don't have to go in detail the coin speaks for itself the damaged area in the middle of the coin were I indicated in red .

    Here's a coin with post mint damage this coin was hit with a puch ,and a hammer with exstreme force that it left this impression simular to your coin on the reverse of the coin , I just want to point out the possiblities of this not being and authentic die clash from the mint

    Mike uses alot of words but he really doesn't get to the point in my eyes anyway .You may be wasting your money by sending the coin in Good luck and I have sent coins to Fred Weinburg one of the best, but he is a very busy guy.

    Oh just an opinion must put that in technicalities

    Jazzcoins joe


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  6. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Well you seen it ,but the rest of us haven't seen it
    Show me the coin ,Proof is the key here ,you have no proof unless you show the coin i would love to see the coin with that same damaged area that i pointed out die pair

    jazz
     
  7. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    jazz
    I love how you post a photo from coneca on one thread as being difinitive proof on one post and question the credibility of its president on another!
     
  8. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Mike and Bill would have been enough for me on this piece.. but you have Mike, Bill, and Fred... some of the primer guys in the field of error coins who have been studying errors forever all saying this is an die clash... not to mention one of them has examined for all intents and purposes the same piece...

    Camon Jazz

    :headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang:
     
  9. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    At this point I will no longer respond to posts by Jazzcoins. It's a waste of my time.
     
  10. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I see why....lord
     
  11. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member


    Well i have my reasons and i will not let that known. I have respect for the forum Why are you starting up again with me I will Pm Peter if you insist on rambling on again Ziggy 1234567890 the coneca forum has other Known people on there site not just Mike.



    Watch you spelling Question this is how you spell question not queation oh Boy


    Jazzcoins Joe
     
  12. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Were;s the coin The clashed die

    I'm glad you won't, because you can't prove your point with evidence ,so you are avoiding my post

    Jazzcoins joe
     
  13. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    on the coneca site you made a big thing about them picking on you about a typo,
    'nuf said
    i will also post to jazz no more.

    "Were;s" I believe that should be "Where's"
     
  14. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Not me when you could see the indications on that coin the obverse and reverse of the the impression on the coin extreme force hammer job That coin is damaged it's common sense I bet that coin will be bagged when he sends it in to PCG's




    Jazz
     
  15. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    common sense tells me that you wouldn't know an hammer die if it hit you in the head.... now wheres that ignore button...
     
  16. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    My last post on this subject I made myself clear on the subject with pics an all
    Well that;s your opinion watch the language forum rules
    the ignore button is to your left
    Jazz
     
  17. Digenes

    Digenes Just a collector

    Jazz
    In the spirit of pure conversationa and debate, I really don't think a hammer job could explain the following photos. I would expect if it was in fact a hammer job you would find the main images that I am pointing out damaged and would not see the "clashed" images cut off and behind the main elements.
     

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  18. Digenes

    Digenes Just a collector

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  19. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    I;m sorry but I'm pretty sure it's a hammer job. my last post in this thread

    Just send it in to make yourself feel better . That;s all i can say it;s up to you the way you feel about it ,clear your mind.

    I can't speak on the subject anymore I have givin you a photo of a coin, that was hit by a strong force a hammer to give that impression simular to yours ,and that;s all i have to see to judge what it really is.

    My opinion which seems not worthy of with some of the members of this forum .but i don;t care about that honest.

    I will not give anymore opinions on this coin .

    Once i make my mind up about something i stick to it.

    do what you feel is right lots of luck with the coin

    Jazzcoins joe






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  20. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Dave,

    Please post a picture of the coin in the slab when you get it back from being certified, graded and attributed. Oh and make sure that you ask and pay for attribution of the error on the slab label.


    Frank
     
  21. Digenes

    Digenes Just a collector

    Frank
    As soon as I get the membership package in the mail (they told me it should arrive between 5 to 10 days), I will be sending it in. I talked to them, and will be sending it in to done as a error coin, though of course more then likely I will be asking for help on filling out the form here before sending it in, as it will be my first attempt at getting a coin slabbed.

    Dave
     
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