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<p>[QUOTE="Ian, post: 37413, member: 283"](?) Maybe I haven't been clear. The coin in that image NOS provided is a clear match for Ciani #1928 which he notes as being either a 1/8th or 1/16th ecu bearing the `Ecu aux huit L's' design. How can I possibly agree that `that's that one out'? It might help if you clarified what design elements you feel to be at fault (forget the privy marks business for the moment) <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Ah...according to Gadoury / Duplessy you mean? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I think the only thing we can safely agree on is that Gadoury does not note the series that the coin appears to have come from. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>From the larger images you have just posted, it looks very much like I was correct about it having been overstruck (whatever it turns out to be). Looking at the `A' in the crown it is obvious to me that it is overstruck on some earlier type (and not the earlier 1690-3 8 l's either). Mind you a forger might be smart enough to try something like that, but I doubt it.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do not have Gadoury or data regarding the diameters he gives for these so I am happy to take your word for such things. The question really is, does Gadoury or Duplessy list the coin in the image or not? </p><p><br /></p><p>What they actually call it (if they list it at all that is) is secondary. If they don't, then my next question would be `how come Ciani does'? I'm pretty sure he wasn't in the habit of inventing coins. As a caveat, I might well be missing the obvious here but if I am then it's got to be a good 'un because there's little doubt in my mind that the image is that of the Ciani reference I quoted previously, and he has it as being either a 1/8th or 1/16th (whatever they size in at). I'd forget trying to link it to what Gadoury or Duplessy says. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>I'm off to the land of nod and from there away from home till next weekend. I hope I get a chance to check in on this though. It's a pity i'm so rushed as i'd love to have scanned the page from Ciani for you to see.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ian, post: 37413, member: 283"](?) Maybe I haven't been clear. The coin in that image NOS provided is a clear match for Ciani #1928 which he notes as being either a 1/8th or 1/16th ecu bearing the `Ecu aux huit L's' design. How can I possibly agree that `that's that one out'? It might help if you clarified what design elements you feel to be at fault (forget the privy marks business for the moment) :-) Ah...according to Gadoury / Duplessy you mean? :-) I think the only thing we can safely agree on is that Gadoury does not note the series that the coin appears to have come from. :-) From the larger images you have just posted, it looks very much like I was correct about it having been overstruck (whatever it turns out to be). Looking at the `A' in the crown it is obvious to me that it is overstruck on some earlier type (and not the earlier 1690-3 8 l's either). Mind you a forger might be smart enough to try something like that, but I doubt it. I do not have Gadoury or data regarding the diameters he gives for these so I am happy to take your word for such things. The question really is, does Gadoury or Duplessy list the coin in the image or not? What they actually call it (if they list it at all that is) is secondary. If they don't, then my next question would be `how come Ciani does'? I'm pretty sure he wasn't in the habit of inventing coins. As a caveat, I might well be missing the obvious here but if I am then it's got to be a good 'un because there's little doubt in my mind that the image is that of the Ciani reference I quoted previously, and he has it as being either a 1/8th or 1/16th (whatever they size in at). I'd forget trying to link it to what Gadoury or Duplessy says. :-) I'm off to the land of nod and from there away from home till next weekend. I hope I get a chance to check in on this though. It's a pity i'm so rushed as i'd love to have scanned the page from Ciani for you to see.[/QUOTE]
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