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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 37294, member: 112"]I think what you are seeing as an A is part of the design of the bottom crown. A privy mark is a small mark or design that siginifies the Engraver General, the Local Engraver and the Mint Director for a given date. The privy marks found on a given coin are different for each mint mark and date. This helps greatly when trying to identify a coin and confirm its authenticity.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now - that being said, I determined the denomination of your coin as a 1/12 ecu, also known as a 10 sols, by finding the only design for the date it even comes close to. Your pic also helped because you used a cent for scale comparison. A cent is 19 mm - the 10 sol is 23mm.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the obverse of your coin - </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.gdjmsp.cointalk.org/other_pics/scan1.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>You see that 8 pointed star at about 11 o'clock - that is a privy mark. </p><p><br /></p><p>This is what the obverse of the coin should look like - </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.gdjmsp.cointalk.org/other_pics/1704%2010%20sols%20obv.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>I tired unsuccessfully for hours to find an example of this coin on the internet. I finally decided to just scan the image from <i>Monnaies Royales Francaises 1610 - 1792</i> by Victor Gadoury, which is the source of the image above. As you can see, this coin and yours are quite different.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the reverse of your coin - </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.gdjmsp.cointalk.org/other_pics/Scan2.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the image from the book - </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.gdjmsp.cointalk.org/other_pics/1704%2010%20sols%20rev.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>With the reverse - the two coins match. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now I have gone through every privy mark, for every year, there is listed in Gadoury - the 8 pointed star does not exist. I have also been unable to find it listed in Krause. Because of the design differences between your coin and the coin listed in Gadoury - I can only conclude your coin is not genuine. </p><p><br /></p><p>I could be wrong, but I have gone through every book I own and I can no coin that matches yours <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>By the way - you see that Z on the reverse of the Gadoury coin at 6 o'clock - that is the mint mark. And if that is the location at which you can make out an A on your coin - I am even more confused.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 37294, member: 112"]I think what you are seeing as an A is part of the design of the bottom crown. A privy mark is a small mark or design that siginifies the Engraver General, the Local Engraver and the Mint Director for a given date. The privy marks found on a given coin are different for each mint mark and date. This helps greatly when trying to identify a coin and confirm its authenticity. Now - that being said, I determined the denomination of your coin as a 1/12 ecu, also known as a 10 sols, by finding the only design for the date it even comes close to. Your pic also helped because you used a cent for scale comparison. A cent is 19 mm - the 10 sol is 23mm. Here is the obverse of your coin - [IMG]http://www.gdjmsp.cointalk.org/other_pics/scan1.jpg[/IMG] You see that 8 pointed star at about 11 o'clock - that is a privy mark. This is what the obverse of the coin should look like - [IMG]http://www.gdjmsp.cointalk.org/other_pics/1704%2010%20sols%20obv.jpg[/IMG] I tired unsuccessfully for hours to find an example of this coin on the internet. I finally decided to just scan the image from [i]Monnaies Royales Francaises 1610 - 1792[/i] by Victor Gadoury, which is the source of the image above. As you can see, this coin and yours are quite different. Here is the reverse of your coin - [IMG]http://www.gdjmsp.cointalk.org/other_pics/Scan2.jpg[/IMG] Here is the image from the book - [IMG]http://www.gdjmsp.cointalk.org/other_pics/1704%2010%20sols%20rev.jpg[/IMG] With the reverse - the two coins match. Now I have gone through every privy mark, for every year, there is listed in Gadoury - the 8 pointed star does not exist. I have also been unable to find it listed in Krause. Because of the design differences between your coin and the coin listed in Gadoury - I can only conclude your coin is not genuine. I could be wrong, but I have gone through every book I own and I can no coin that matches yours :( By the way - you see that Z on the reverse of the Gadoury coin at 6 o'clock - that is the mint mark. And if that is the location at which you can make out an A on your coin - I am even more confused.[/QUOTE]
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