The first one looks like it was struck thru filled dies , If it was from weak dies some of the weak letters should be there just saying
The edges have no reeding. On a grease-filled die error, the striking pressure is normal, so reeding is not affected.
And @Avery G. a.k.a. @rascal , no, weak lettering does NOT need to be present for it to be a weak strike (die adjustment strike ).
All right, Joe. You've piqued my curiosity. So often, we see "Dropped Elements" that are slightly larger than the actual font. So, what is the actual diameter of the 1c planchet on the Ike. Is it slightly smaller because the planchet never went through the coining chamber? ~ Chris
Weak strike is a more appropriate description than a die adjustment strike. We have no way of knowing if a coin like this was the result of them adjusting the dies. We do know the strike is weak, therefore I don't use die adjustment strike.
It is larger than the diameter of a cent and almost nickel-size. That would be expected for it to be larger because the cent planchet is not in a collar, whereas the dollar planchet was.
Hmm! I would expect the cent planchet to be slightly smaller in diameter than a normal cent since it didn't go through the coining chamber. Once struck, doesn't the planchet actually expand into the retaining collar? Or, is that distance so slight that it doesn't matter? ~ Chris
Because the cent planchet is softer than the Ike planchet, it absorbs more of the energy of the impact of the dies than does the Ike planchet and, unconstrained in the absence of a cent collar, expands more than expected as a result.
And another familiar question: how likely is it that a cent planchet ended up in the chamber without some "help"?
The reverse on the second one makes it look like a photo taken from the back side of the moon. LOL Very cool errors.
It happens very, very, very seldom. However it can't be 100% completely discounted either. But can a differen't sized planchet accidentally wind up with another planchet in a striking chamber? Yes. A feeder finger sized for a dollar planchet could conceivably push that and a smaller one into the chamber at ine time.
I was wondering the same thing. I could see some bored employees throwing cent planchets at the machine trying to shoot the gap. LOL
That is a possibiity. Another is that a planchet was stuck in machinery and then came loose during dollar striking. Another is that a cent planchet was stuck in a bin and became loose as dollar planchets were poured in.