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Message:: [QUOTE="abuckmaster147, post: 1638188, member: 27527"]  apology accepted, And I am sorry for unloading on You as well.    It just seems every time I post and want to learn I get ,everything but!!!  People that say a coin is worthless spend it when it is in fact not, Or folks posting to raise there post content, or Sarcasm .   I can see where the second pic did not show what I wanted. and the top one did but was over looked because of the gunk or what ever.   I guess I was looking for a simple yes I see what you are saying or No We CANT SEE IT PLEASE TRY A BETTER PIC OR ANGLE and we will look again.   I am trying to get as much info as possible about the coins I find searching so as my young Grandson can look at them when he is older and say oh this is this or that? Not that I care what any are really worth because they are going to my Grandson or grand children some day. It just seems that almost every post has to have a money sign attached to it. When that's not what I am about , i am just trying to figure out the minting process and decide what happens to make some of these coin odd like this.                                             JON[/QUOTE]