2 coin mail call

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  1. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    Picked these up today. Fro 20201019_224131.jpg 20201019_224238.jpg 20201019_224214.jpg nt and back pics of the 2.

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  3. DonnaML

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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    More a self-slabbing entity than a legitimate TPG, I believe. Not a particularly reputable company, but I will say one thing for them: I once bought a LRB in one of their holders which had come from a hoard found in 1968 at a Roman villa, and they had the findspot and date on the label, which was helpful.

    The coin had an absurd "MS" grade on it, as I recall (it certainly wasn't), but it was an interesting and inexpensive buy. I later gifted it to Mike Duncan, the creator of the History of Rome podcast.
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    @Everett Guy - as you may have known, Valerian I had an interesting history, being captured by the Persians and ending up as a human footstool and all that.

    That coin, like the one I had in an NNC holder, is absurdly overgraded, but that is par for the course with them. Doesn't mean it isn't still a cool coin, of course. Where's the reverse pic?
     
  6. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..it's an old seller of mine from ebay...i bought some of my 1st ancients from him back 14 years ago...he puts his own coins in his own slab..not a 3rd party/independent grader :)

    yeah, that's a dandy of ol' Valerian and ya got another G3 denarius Everett...mines self silvered..:D silverwash Valerian antonianus 002.JPG silverwash Valerian antonianus 003.JPG
     
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  7. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Slab like that do a true disservice to the community. I would be 100% okay if it was simply slabbed with the emperor and date, for protection more than anything.

    overgeading these is a massive fraud if y out ask me
     
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  8. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    oh, i wouldn't call it fraud...he's not trying to trick anybody..maybe guilty of hamming it up a lil too much..
     
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  9. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    Its the first pic. The pics got mixed up. So the first and last go together and the middle 2 together.
     
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  10. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    The more I collect and get history the more I want to get one of each, since its prob going to be impossible to get them all, I may fill in the ones I cant get with copys, i never pay attention to the grades from the self slabbed coins. If they look good they are "VF" to me... Maybe if I run into extra cash one day I will get some graded good coins, but you can def get some good ones for decent prices I am finding. I got both of these for about $60
     
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  11. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter I dig ancient coins...

    I have a Gordian/Apollo with Lyre as well...

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  12. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter I dig ancient coins...

    Phillip and Valerian on Shapur's mighty relief at Naqsh-i-Rustam. Phillip is the kneeling figure, Valerian is the bound figure standing.

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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Nice coins, @Everett Guy ...

    Here are a couple of mine, unslabbed / Never-Slabbed by the Alegandron Coin Confedration.

    These are graded by the Ancients Sliding Scale. It is posted here on the Internet, so it MUST be true!

    Ultra-Proof MS-103
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    RI Valerian I 253-260 CE AR Ant Felicitas stndg Caduceus and Cornucopia


    Better-than-PERFECT MS-427
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    RI Gordian III 238-244 CE AE As 25mm Hercules S-C
     
  14. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

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  15. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    There is prob no way of telling how many of these coins were produce. I wished I would of started collecting 30 years ago when I knew more dealers.
     
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  16. Herodotus

    Herodotus Well-Known Member

    I dunno @Alegandron , I would probably go MS-102 on that one.:cigar:
     
  17. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    It’s impossible to determine actual mintage numbers. Best you can do is see which emperors ruled longer and thus tend to have more coins
     
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  18. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter I dig ancient coins...

    Lots of Gordie III types were struck, and in huge volumes.
     
  19. DonnaML

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    Why isn't there a "laugh" button?
     
  20. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    Prob how I got 3 easy...lol. the one list I had said they were semi hard to come by. Also I noticed I got 2 with different reverse image on them. Is this the case with most roman coins?
     
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  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    Oh. Silly me. I should’ve noticed that.
     
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