2 coin mail call

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  1. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    Picked these up today. Fro 20201019_224131.jpg 20201019_224238.jpg 20201019_224214.jpg nt and back pics of the 2.

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  3. DonnaML

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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    More a self-slabbing entity than a legitimate TPG, I believe. Not a particularly reputable company, but I will say one thing for them: I once bought a LRB in one of their holders which had come from a hoard found in 1968 at a Roman villa, and they had the findspot and date on the label, which was helpful.

    The coin had an absurd "MS" grade on it, as I recall (it certainly wasn't), but it was an interesting and inexpensive buy. I later gifted it to Mike Duncan, the creator of the History of Rome podcast.
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    @Everett Guy - as you may have known, Valerian I had an interesting history, being captured by the Persians and ending up as a human footstool and all that.

    That coin, like the one I had in an NNC holder, is absurdly overgraded, but that is par for the course with them. Doesn't mean it isn't still a cool coin, of course. Where's the reverse pic?
     
  6. ominus1

    ominus1 Supporter! Supporter

    ..it's an old seller of mine from ebay...i bought some of my 1st ancients from him back 14 years ago...he puts his own coins in his own slab..not a 3rd party/independent grader :)

    yeah, that's a dandy of ol' Valerian and ya got another G3 denarius Everett...mines self silvered..:D silverwash Valerian antonianus 002.JPG silverwash Valerian antonianus 003.JPG
     
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  7. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Slab like that do a true disservice to the community. I would be 100% okay if it was simply slabbed with the emperor and date, for protection more than anything.

    overgeading these is a massive fraud if y out ask me
     
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  8. ominus1

    ominus1 Supporter! Supporter

    oh, i wouldn't call it fraud...he's not trying to trick anybody..maybe guilty of hamming it up a lil too much..
     
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  9. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    Its the first pic. The pics got mixed up. So the first and last go together and the middle 2 together.
     
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  10. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    The more I collect and get history the more I want to get one of each, since its prob going to be impossible to get them all, I may fill in the ones I cant get with copys, i never pay attention to the grades from the self slabbed coins. If they look good they are "VF" to me... Maybe if I run into extra cash one day I will get some graded good coins, but you can def get some good ones for decent prices I am finding. I got both of these for about $60
     
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  11. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter Basileus Megalos

    I have a Gordian/Apollo with Lyre as well...

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  12. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter Basileus Megalos

    Phillip and Valerian on Shapur's mighty relief at Naqsh-i-Rustam. Phillip is the kneeling figure, Valerian is the bound figure standing.

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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Nice coins, @Everett Guy ...

    Here are a couple of mine, unslabbed / Never-Slabbed by the Alegandron Coin Confedration.

    These are graded by the Ancients Sliding Scale. It is posted here on the Internet, so it MUST be true!

    Ultra-Proof MS-103
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    RI Valerian I 253-260 CE AR Ant Felicitas stndg Caduceus and Cornucopia


    Better-than-PERFECT MS-427
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    RI Gordian III 238-244 CE AE As 25mm Hercules S-C
     
  14. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

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  15. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    There is prob no way of telling how many of these coins were produce. I wished I would of started collecting 30 years ago when I knew more dealers.
     
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  16. Herodotus

    Herodotus Well-Known Member

    I dunno @Alegandron , I would probably go MS-102 on that one.:cigar:
     
  17. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    It’s impossible to determine actual mintage numbers. Best you can do is see which emperors ruled longer and thus tend to have more coins
     
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  18. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter Basileus Megalos

    Lots of Gordie III types were struck, and in huge volumes.
     
  19. DonnaML

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    Why isn't there a "laugh" button?
     
  20. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    Prob how I got 3 easy...lol. the one list I had said they were semi hard to come by. Also I noticed I got 2 with different reverse image on them. Is this the case with most roman coins?
     
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  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    Oh. Silly me. I should’ve noticed that.
     
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