1st of 2021 - Ancient Error - Licinius I

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Andrew McMenamin, Jan 6, 2021.

  1. Andrew McMenamin

    Andrew McMenamin Well-Known Member

    Hello,

    I just received my first coin of the year. It's an error coin that I came across and just had to have it because the error is so obvious. Oddly enough the auction did not list it as an error; it was simply listed as “Rome Empire Licinius 308-324 Large Follis SPQR Optimo Principi High Grade,” and the description had the wrong mintmark. I paid $30 and believe it was a pretty good deal.

    Licinius I; Æ Follis; 313AD
    OBV: IMP LICINIVS PF AVG; Laureate, cuirassed bust r.
    REV: SPQR OPTIMO PRINCIPI; Three standards surmounted by hand, eagle and wreath. RS in ex. RIC VI ROME 349cS; Sear 15307.

    LICINIUS I AE3 RIC VI ROME 349cS ERROR DOUBLE DIE.png

    Also, it looks almost identical to the coin (below) in the Wildwinds database (let me know your opinion) which I think adds to the cool factor.

    WILDWINDS LICINIUS I.png

    Thanks, and happy collecting!
     
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  3. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark standing on the shoulders of giants Dealer

    The bust on your coin is laureate, draped and cuirassed; which makes it RIC VI Rome 350c
     
  4. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    What's up with his portrait? Oh, and the reverse... is it double struck?
     
  5. Andrew McMenamin

    Andrew McMenamin Well-Known Member

    I believe so; both obverse and reverse.
     
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  6. Andrew McMenamin

    Andrew McMenamin Well-Known Member

    Thanks!
     
  7. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    Nice double struck!
    I only have modern double struck errors, not on ancients.
     
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  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    Double struck ancient coins are hardly rare enough to be called 'errors' as much as they are evidence of poor workmanship. 'Error grade' ancients need to be extreme before they pass the market value of a normal coin. The Tetricus below is an error.
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  9. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Neat double strike. Here is my 349.

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  10. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark standing on the shoulders of giants Dealer

    here's a neat SPQR brockage I saw but didn't buy.

    SPQR brockage 3.9gm.jpg

    here's a neat one with the eagle's wings spread.

    Rome350.jpg

    I'll leave this one here and see if anyone notices why it is different...it's probably too hard :smug:

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  11. tenbobbit

    tenbobbit Supporter! Supporter

    Here is another Constantine like the one Victor showed with the Eagles wings open, from Rome.
    It has the same double strike issues as the OP coin.

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  12. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Another ancients lesson, thanks everyone.
     
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  13. Andrew McMenamin

    Andrew McMenamin Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info. I don't collect errors of any kind so I don't know the lingo or the subject at all. However I do see "errors" listed often and most aren't this obvious. I understand the minting process and saw this as a double strike. Regardless of terminology, it's a cool coin (to me) and I wanted to add it to my collection. Again, thank you for the feedback.
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2021
  14. Andrew McMenamin

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  15. Andrew McMenamin

    Andrew McMenamin Well-Known Member

    Constantine has a spiked chin on the second coin. The reverse of the third coin has two standards with banners. Am I right? BTW that third coin is a beauty.
     
  16. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark standing on the shoulders of giants Dealer

    Yes, good catch. There are banners on two standards, normally only the center has a banner.
     
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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    ooops! Boo-Boo’s

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    RR M Furius ERROR DOUBLE-STRIKE AR Den119 BC Janus Trophy Carnyx S 156 Cr 281-1


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    RR Clodius Pulcher T Mallius AR Den 111-110 BCE ERROR Flipover Double-Strike Roma Triga Cr 299-1b S 176
     
  18. Andrew McMenamin

    Andrew McMenamin Well-Known Member

    BTW, I like your website and go to it often. Very informative.
     
  19. Andrew McMenamin

    Andrew McMenamin Well-Known Member

    Saw the link to your website. Wow - awesome. Don't know why it never came up in my gazillion internet searches. My passion is Constantine I bronzes. Your site is now in my favorites. Thanks for all the hard work you put into it.
     
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  20. Caesar_Augustus

    Caesar_Augustus Well-Known Member

    I absolutely adore error coins.

    Constantine the Great
    AE Follis
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    316 A.D., Rome Mint, 3rd Officina
    3.72g, 19.0mm, 12H

    Obverse: IMP CONSTANTINVS P F AVG,
    Bust of Constantine I, laureate, draped, cuirassed, right

    Reverse: SOLI IN-VI-CT COM D N,
    Sol, radiate, chlamys draped across left shoulder, standing left, raising right hand and holding Victory on globe in left hand

    Exergue: ✱///RT

    Provenance: Ex. CNG Electronic Auction 456, Lot 751 (part of)

    Reference: RIC VII Rome 49
     
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  21. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark standing on the shoulders of giants Dealer

    I think you posted the wrong picture...it doesn't match your description.
     
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