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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Jack D. Young, post: 4023967, member: 93371&quot;]I found the following from a post here from <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/92083/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/92083/">@JCro57</a> late last year and quote:</p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;One person in particular who was selling or attempting to sell these coins and other desirable errors (state quarters on cent planchets, Ike dollars struck on 1 cent curved clips, Susan B. Anthony wrong planchet errors, etc.) was a man supposedly named &quot;<b>Charles Silverstone</b>&quot; a.k.a. &quot;Mike McCoy&quot; among other names. Apparently at one point he had an address listed on eBay in Bulgaria, and also had contact information in Western Florida in the St. Pete/Clearwater area with at least two different addresses. (People I interviewed also said he had a thick European accent after talking with him on the phone.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Unfortunately a handful of his fakes were at first slabbed by all four major grading companies, in part because the <i>modus operandi </i>was to use genuine U.S. planchets in making these deceptive coins, and even using some genuine errors that were later enhanced via additional strikes from extremely well-crafted fake dies; this strategy adds to the level of difficulty in verifying genuine coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>One of the people who discovered these were not genuine was Mint error dealer Jon Sullivan, which among other factors noticed one die with unique die markings was found to be on different denominations over different years...and from different U.S. Mints! So, either the various Mints passed this particular die around to each other over several years, or it was an altered/fake die all made at one place.</p><p><br /></p><p>Though some of you may feel this is &quot;proof&quot; that grading companies are unreliable, I find just the opposite is true. I admire their role in being aggressive to correct their mistakes, and I don&#039;t feel it was just all about mitigating damage/lawsuits or to deflect negative publicity; I believe they had the individual collector in mind as well and didn&#039;t want anyone else getting scammed.</p><p><br /></p><p>As you can see, these fakes/altered coins are incredibly convincing, though some more than others. I don&#039;t know what or if anything ever happened to &quot;Charles Silverstone,&quot; or whomever he really is.</p><p><br /></p><p>~Joe C&quot;.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/whopper-kennedy-errors-i-mean-day-um.351698/page-3" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/whopper-kennedy-errors-i-mean-day-um.351698/page-3">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/whopper-kennedy-errors-i-mean-day-um.351698/page-3</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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