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<p>[QUOTE="dennis5151, post: 8483963, member: 90596"]The evolution of Cheerios Dollar grading has been confusing to pretty much everyone, including the graders. I have noted discrepancies between PCGS and NGC. I have not investigated ANACS or ICG Cheerios Dollars.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS has a "CHEERIOS DOLLAR" and a "CHEERIOS DOLLAR FS902" for the same prototype fine detailed coin. I think the earlier PCGS items were labeled with FS-902 and the designation was later dropped. </p><p><br /></p><p>As far as know, PCGS will not grade a non-fine detailed prototype as a Cheerios. Therefore, I would not send any it to PCGS. There are two tells on the obverse of the Cheerios Dollars for the prototypes with detailed tailfeathers. The tells are blemishes that were polished out before the non-prototype coins were run. Both are on the cloak, one just below the P and one at the tail end on the wrap, on the right.</p><p><br /></p><p>Further, PCGS pop report is confusing as it has all Cheerios dollars listed as 411990 which opens up to show a "Base" and the 147231 which is the FS-902. </p><p><br /></p><p>The 411990 row totals the number of BASE and 147231 coins. I emailed and have called PCGS but could not get any answer on what a "Base" coin is. I guess they are not interested in finding out or no one really knows. I have also emailed and asked PCGS to recognize the circulated 1999 prototype but never received an answer. I am sure they have a reason.</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC has a "CHEERIOS PROMOTION REGULAR REVERSE" meaning the coin has the fine prototype detail tailfeathers. They (NGC) have also labeled a coin "CHEERIOS PROMOTION" meaning the coin does not have the fine prototype detail tailfeathers. </p><p><br /></p><p>Further, now this is funny.... NGC coin 3004230-001 has fine prototype detail tailfeathers and the coin is simply labeled as "2000 P PATTERN", no reference to a Cheerios promotion. To make it worse, NGC coin 3004230-002 is most likely the companion penny and it is labeled "2000 CLOSE "AM" 1C CHEERIOS PROMOTION". </p><p><br /></p><p>This discrepancy is most likely due to the evolution of discovery, no one expected a non-pattern Cheerios to turn up so calling a coin a "Pattern" and leaving off the "Cheerios" made sense. It also saved some ink.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the future there will be a demand and premium for specific labels or mis-labels for these coins. LOL[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dennis5151, post: 8483963, member: 90596"]The evolution of Cheerios Dollar grading has been confusing to pretty much everyone, including the graders. I have noted discrepancies between PCGS and NGC. I have not investigated ANACS or ICG Cheerios Dollars. PCGS has a "CHEERIOS DOLLAR" and a "CHEERIOS DOLLAR FS902" for the same prototype fine detailed coin. I think the earlier PCGS items were labeled with FS-902 and the designation was later dropped. As far as know, PCGS will not grade a non-fine detailed prototype as a Cheerios. Therefore, I would not send any it to PCGS. There are two tells on the obverse of the Cheerios Dollars for the prototypes with detailed tailfeathers. The tells are blemishes that were polished out before the non-prototype coins were run. Both are on the cloak, one just below the P and one at the tail end on the wrap, on the right. Further, PCGS pop report is confusing as it has all Cheerios dollars listed as 411990 which opens up to show a "Base" and the 147231 which is the FS-902. The 411990 row totals the number of BASE and 147231 coins. I emailed and have called PCGS but could not get any answer on what a "Base" coin is. I guess they are not interested in finding out or no one really knows. I have also emailed and asked PCGS to recognize the circulated 1999 prototype but never received an answer. I am sure they have a reason. NGC has a "CHEERIOS PROMOTION REGULAR REVERSE" meaning the coin has the fine prototype detail tailfeathers. They (NGC) have also labeled a coin "CHEERIOS PROMOTION" meaning the coin does not have the fine prototype detail tailfeathers. Further, now this is funny.... NGC coin 3004230-001 has fine prototype detail tailfeathers and the coin is simply labeled as "2000 P PATTERN", no reference to a Cheerios promotion. To make it worse, NGC coin 3004230-002 is most likely the companion penny and it is labeled "2000 CLOSE "AM" 1C CHEERIOS PROMOTION". This discrepancy is most likely due to the evolution of discovery, no one expected a non-pattern Cheerios to turn up so calling a coin a "Pattern" and leaving off the "Cheerios" made sense. It also saved some ink. In the future there will be a demand and premium for specific labels or mis-labels for these coins. LOL[/QUOTE]
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