1995p Jefferson nickel

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  1. Twiggs

    Twiggs Coin Collector

    Kewl Paddy..thanks
    Looks like I have more homework to do..lol
     
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  3. jessash1976

    jessash1976 Coin knowledgeable


    Because some people like to think that maybe something else strange could have happen instead of the same answers that are given. I think it has a couple of die clashes on it. It is possible or not? And also, are not some of the answers people give on here just guessing? Sometimes thoughtful guesses lead to correct answers. We are just looking at the pics and not holding them in our hands.
     
  4. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,
    There is no evidence of design transfer on the coin at the beginning of the thread, hence no evidence of a die clash.

    When the dies clash, details can be transferred from one die to another. If the details that are added to the dies due to the clash end up being added to coins being struck, we can see the added details. They are not random. They match up with details from the opposite die. There are no such markings on the coin being discussed.

    The next thing to keep in mind is that with some of us who are immersed in the error and die variety field, the "guesses" are not guesses.

    There are some here who are new and they are entitiled to guess but their guesses should not confuse the other newbies who have a question and it often happens that someone's bad guess causes some of us to have to explain the same thing over and over again.

    I, for example don't guess. I know exactly what I am looking at if the picture is clear. Admittedly if I am not sure of something based upon a poor or small picture , I will give a few possibilities until a better picture turns up.

    If I don't know what something is, I don't comment.

    It is important to realize , and you will in time, that there are people on any forum who really do know what they are doing. Then there are some who like to think that they know what they are doing. Then there are those who are still learning and they will sometimes offer guesses that just don't fit into what really happens at the Mint.

    Some examples are repunched dates and Mint marks on coins dated while repunching anything has been a long gone practice. You can't have a repunched date on a cent dated 1994 D, for example. You can't have a digit repunched over another digit on anything dated after 1909. Modern, (post-1909) dual dated coins like the 1942/1941 dimes, for example are doubled dies where two different hubs were used to create a die where each hub was of a different year. In other words, no one punched a 2 over a 1.

    There are many examples of bad guesses on these forums.

    On rare occasions I do misspeak, if it is late and my brain is on overload.

    I recently blundered when I mentioned something pertaining to the plating on a coin. My ID of the error was correct but I misspoke when I described a Minting process. I knew it was wrong, I just didn't go back to correct it quickly enough.

    I seldom, if ever mis-identify an error or a die variety unless the picture is questionable.

    For those who want to guess, you should preface your statement (as some of you do) with, "this is just a guess but".....Then those who really know will tell you if your guess is on the money or if it isn't. If it's not and i have time, I will almost always explain why the "guess" was not correct.

    Also, over the years, some of the folks here that had less experience with these coins have become truly accurate with their assessments of coins as they studied and researched the coins they were learning about. If they answer a question, I may or may not jump in too.

    When I see something that is posted that is not accurate, I will usually chime in.

    Sometimes I only have the time for a brief response and sometimes I have the time to write a novel:) So please excuse the sometimes brief answers in threads.

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
  5. Twiggs

    Twiggs Coin Collector

    It's all good guys. I'm still very green when it comes to coins and notes, so I may ask questions to better understand. I appreciate every answer, whether it be from a newbie or a professional. If you had asked me a year ago what cud was, I would have said something a cow burps up..lol

    So thank you everyone :)
     
  6. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Good questions. Keep on asking. Sometimes a search on a question that's already been answered will help.
     
  7. jessash1976

    jessash1976 Coin knowledgeable

    No Pun intended Bill,
    I was just trying to say(sometimes my mouth runs faster than my brain) that unless you have coin in hand, most answers are just"best guesses". It is like when I would do field work and my boss(who never had been in the field) would tell me he knows everything that is going on there because he has maps and samples from the lab and such. He doesn't, because he is not there, and his multitude of degrees are not going to help him until he is there. But, alas I am still trying to help him in that category. Now, you think this coin is damaged by the movement of other coins, metal or environmental things of such. Myself, looking at it on a screen see a letter where it is not suppossed to be. Like I said before, without holding the coin and examining it myself, I can only go by the pics given. Maybe , if he tilted the coin in a different direction I could see that this is not so. And unless I/you do the same, ect, ect....:D
     
  8. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi Jessash 1976,

    Often a picture, even if it is poor can give some of us enough information to tell what a coin has or doesn't have.

    It's tough to describe but after you've seen hundreds, and sometimes thousands of coins , in hand that exhibit the same qualities, you can identify something even if the picture could be better.

    The first example that comes to mind would be something like the reprocessed cents of 1943. Those are coins that have been cleaned and replated outside the Mint in order to make look better. Even a small picture, or a picture that is out of focus allows one to identify the fact that it was reprocessed.

    It has "The Look" :)

    Many damaged coins have "The Look" that pertains to a type of damage that many of us have seen in some cases, at least a million times (literally) :) It is the experience of having seen other coins in hand that allows some of us to identify something without a coin in hand.

    It just comes from looking at a lot of clunkers as we search for the good stuff.

    While I see your view point, sometimes a clunker can be identified based upon experience with a picture provided. Most folks who know me will tell you that my track record "ain't" bad:) but I understand what you mean.

    Have Fun,
    Bill
     
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