1992 close AM

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Any one see during too?

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  1. Charles tresner

    Charles tresner New Member

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  3. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Your coins are as they should be, wide AM. It's the 1992 D Proof close AM that is the valuable coin. And your poll should have read doubled die, not double dye.
     
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  4. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Actually those are the wide A/M, which are normal for that year. The close ones touch.
     
  5. Charles tresner

    Charles tresner New Member

    .................................. NO they dont touch according To PCGS
     
  6. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    What do they know?

    Let me put it another way. If can you see separation it’s wide.
     
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  7. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Coin 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5...no, no, no, no & no. Not even close.
    Welcome aboard The CT Train. Hope you enjoy the ride. :)
     
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  8. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    All are wide AM
     
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  9. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    Having searched a couple tons of cents a few years ago and found none, I’d say you’d be the luckiest human on earth to find 5
    All wide
     
  10. mike estes

    mike estes Active Member

    welcome to CT Charles tresner. yea i got to go with the majority and say you dont have 1 example of the 1992 Close AM. maybe these pictures will help you in the future. good luck 1992-D Close AM.jpg CloseAM1.jpg
     
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  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Nope. Blow up the image posted by Mike Estes, which IS a Close AM, and you will see that the A and M are still separated and do not touch.
     
  12. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    But you’re misleading everybody now. Because now the next guy is going to come on here with examples like these and question whether they’re close.

    So let’s split the pot. If they don’t LOOK like they’re touching, they’re NOT close, they’re wide. Every one of these clearly don’t LOOK like they’re touching.

    They’re looking for guidance. Let’s keep our eyes on the ball and give them it.
     
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  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The key for Close and Wide AM's is still, if the space between the AM is the same as between ME it is a Wide AM. If the space between the AM is CLEARLY smaller than the space between the ME it's a Close AM.
     
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  14. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I’ll have to look ours over and see if that applies. I’m of course not doubting it. I’d just not heard it, not here or anywhere.
     
  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    That is the rule that I have always used.
     
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  16. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    these are the greatest design differences for comparison and identification.

    Reverse Design variety RDV-006. "Wide AM" reverse and the normal reverse for 1989-1992.
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    Reverse Design Variety RDV-007. This is the "Close AM" and the normal reverse for 1993-2008.
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    For RVD-006 you can use any reverse example of 1989-1991 for comparison
    For RVD-007 you can use an example of 1993-2008 (except for 1998, 1999, 2000 which might be the "Wide AM" which is RDV-006).

    I don't know of a better way to explain this, this is the key to both the '92 Close AM, and the '98, '99, and 2000 Wide AM.

    In my Opinion, the FG is the dead giveaway on which reverse it is. it's distance from the memorial, the stem and seriff, the circular curve on
    RDV-006 vs the almost backwards looking D of the G on RDV-007.

    Due to die deterioration and contact marks, the AM placement can spread or be pushed closer together, I feel like it's a good first step at identifying needing to take a closer look, but the FG location and "G" font is the confirming point.
     
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  17. whopper64

    whopper64 Active Member

    Thanks for the enlightening post!
     
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  18. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Bookmarked!
     
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  19. mike estes

    mike estes Active Member

    great post John Burgess and the pictures were exactly what was needed to see the error/variety. good job to everyone who posted the right info so that Charles tresner can understand and learn more about this coin. great job guys
     
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