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Message:: [QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 7927785, member: 105098"]<a href="http://www.error-ref.com/_straight_clips_/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.error-ref.com/_straight_clips_/" rel="nofollow">http://www.error-ref.com/_straight_clips_/</a><a href="http://www.error-ref.com/_straight_clips_/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.error-ref.com/_straight_clips_/" rel="nofollow">http://www.error-ref.com/_straight_clips_/</a> Blakesly Effect is wrong, the letters aren't elongated like they are being sucked  towards the clip, in fact it like they were ground down or smashed flat instead, the edge near the clip doesn't taper appropriately.  it doesn't need to have a Blakesly effect in every case, but it has one, and it's not opposite the clip. Just one persons opinion and I'm not a professional,  but I think both coins are PMD, the 1977D being the more obvious and easier to tell.  on the 1990 I factored in for a straight clip off the edge for the sheet or a curved clip from the punch,  because it's so minor it could be either really, but it just doesn't "look" right to me. Obverse "TRUST" looks smashed if anything, Reverse "UNUM", looks worn down, overall. I'd hope, but I'm very skeptical on it.[/QUOTE]