1989 P Dime with Machine Doubling or DD?

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  1. angelis

    angelis Member

    Hello everyone!
    I have seen examples about the difference between Machine Doubling and Double die but this seems to have three layers, sometimes one shadow and two layers and sometimes just one shadow. Plus the flaw in the ring that shows a little more evidence but I'm in doubt what it is. I need expert help, thanks.
     

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  3. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Hey brother can you spare a half dime?

    Machine doubling see the shelf like doubling?
     
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  4. angelis

    angelis Member

    Thanks for answering!
    Yes, I see the flat shelf in several parts, the only thing that makes me doubt is that I see in some parts two flat shelves one on top of the other and the last layer (as in the U), when there are three flat layers is still Machine Doubling?
    Thanks for your help:cat:
     
  5. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    There is no evidence of notching/split serifs. That's a key characteristic for true die doubling
     
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  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Hey brother can you spare a half dime?

    No problem for some they have a hard time understand what they are seeing. Your eyes do play tricks on you at times. Try and up load your images as full not thumb nails. When asking a member for an opinion its much easier to look at the images in full.
    If you're interested in learning more about errors and varieties I suggest to join Coneca . Its $25 @ year and it helps you to connect to experts and well know collectors. Well worth the yearly dues. However here are a list of web sites to use as a reference and book mark for future useage.

    http://varietyvista.com/

    https://www.indianvarieties.com/

    http://doubleddie.com/228401.html


    http://www.franklinlover.yolasite.com/
     
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  7. angelis

    angelis Member

    Thank you very much for sharing your opinion, today I learned that I have to look for notching/split (new term for me) when in doubt between double machine and double die. Now I am sure it is machine double;), Cheers!:cat:
     
  8. angelis

    angelis Member

    Coneca sounds very good:angelic:, I think I will join because I really like all this and I need to learn more. Also learn how to upload better photos (full size) but I can't find where is the option to do it. I will investigate, Also thanks for the reference links I will study them. Best regards!:cat:
     
  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Hey brother can you spare a half dime?

    Ok to post in full go to upload a file select that the the photo you wish to upload. Next you will see a small photo and two buttons thumbnail the other Full Image 20221005_134554.jpg

    The image shows a doubled die coin from Brazil
     

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  10. angelis

    angelis Member

    What a wonderful Real of Brasil DD coin:rolleyes:! Thanks for sharing the instructions for uploading the photos:), hopefully in the future I will have another interesting coin:joyful: to take a photo of and I will upload it full size. :cat:
     
  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Also.. The correct numismatic terminology is Doubled Die. Not double die.
     
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  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Hey brother can you spare a half dime?

    @angelis
    This buffalo nickel is also a doubled die! It shows no signs of split serifs, To the eye it is an every ray buffalo nickel....but guess what it is a listed ddr. There are two areas that the experts claim that its a DD. To my eye its a clash both areas. s-l300-3.png s-l300-4.png
    The ddr can be seen under stand its chin as well the knee on the left rear leg.

    https://doubleddie.com/1124350.html wwdr 003
     
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  13. angelis

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    :wideyed:I see it, this specific case is confusing,:shy: it is really a very good example! If those two areas didn't exist it really wouldn't be considered a DD. This becomes detective work! :pompous: thanks for such an interesting example.:cat:
     
  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Hey brother can you spare a half dime?

    Now please understand that I dont scribe to all doubled die's as being a doubled die.
    There are some that are considered to be but are so insignificant that they are not worthy of a mentioning.
    I have sent in coins where they were attributed to be....and then delisted from the list of DD.
    However its all good as its a learning experience and thats how we learn more so by our mistakes.
    Like the 4 year old who touches the oven door....once burned twice shy...;)
    Yet they remember the next time do not touch.
     
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