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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;jay4202472000, post: 2816860, member: 42573&quot;]That is <b><i><u>THE</u></i></b> key die marker on coins that had hand punched mint marks.&nbsp; Die markers come and go throughout the die&#039;s life (die stages), however the mint mark placement will always remain constant.&nbsp; The only exception is if the coin is a DDR and later on the obverse die was changed.&nbsp; A good example of this situation is 1968D-DDR-001.&nbsp; Stage C on Variety Vista (VV) has a new obverse die.&nbsp; Notice the mint mark of Stage C is in a different location from Stages A &amp; B.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://varietyvista.com/01b%20LC%20Doubled%20Dies%20Vol%202/1968DDDR001.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://varietyvista.com/01b%20LC%20Doubled%20Dies%20Vol%202/1968DDDR001.htm" rel="nofollow">http://varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/1968DDDR001.htm</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The example I own is a Stage C.&nbsp; Both of Coppercoins stages are from the first obverse die, even the Late Die State images (LDS).</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.coppercoins.com/diesearch.php" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coppercoins.com/diesearch.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.coppercoins.com/diesearch.php</a></p><p><br /></p><p>So if you had a VV Stage C &amp; checked Coppercoins, the mint mark placement wouldn&#039;t match, even though it&#039;s the same DDR.</p><p><br /></p><p>Wexler&#039;s is the same, but as you can see, he doesn&#039;t have an image of the date &amp; MM.&nbsp; I love Wexler&#039;s site, but that&#039;s the only bad thing I can say about it.&nbsp; There are a lot of older doubled dies listed without an image of the date &amp; MM.&nbsp; On heavily circulated coins where all markers are wiped out, that MM placement could confirm or prove it isn&#039;t the doubled die you are looking at.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://doubleddie.com/814660.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://doubleddie.com/814660.html" rel="nofollow">http://doubleddie.com/814660.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I was studying my 1968D-DDR-001 last night while entering it into my variety spreadsheet.&nbsp; That&#039;s the only reason I could just pull that example out, lol.&nbsp; Just keep this in mind and use all references handy.</p><p><br /></p><p>This has nothing to do with the MM placement, but another example I have run into where a die change happens mid-run is 1925S-RPM-001.&nbsp; The reverse is changed at Stage E:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://varietyvista.com/02a%20LC%20RPMs%20Vol%201/1925SRPM001.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://varietyvista.com/02a%20LC%20RPMs%20Vol%201/1925SRPM001.htm" rel="nofollow">http://varietyvista.com/02a LC RPMs Vol 1/1925SRPM001.htm</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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