1988 penny - is this a transitional coin. What do you think?

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  2. Chuck_A

    Chuck_A Active Member

    I think you should buy a book before posting.
     
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  3. I have a book and this one looks like a transition coin to me, is it bad to ask and post?
     
  4. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis Teen Collector

    There is nothing here to suggest that this is a transition coin... What do you see in it?
     
  5. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Transition from what? 1987 and 1988 no changes.
     
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  6. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    If you think it is a copper coin, that would be off metal error.
    All you have to do is weigh it.
    Copper cents 3.11 grams, zinc 2.50 grams.
    A transitional error is when there is a change the next year and the current coin
    has the previous years, planchet, design etc.
     
  7. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    1988 to 1989 is the change.

    To answer the OP, I don't think you have one.
     
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  8. Sir, It’s 1988 and 1989 where the initials in the reverse for 1989 had been struck to 1988. I saw it in you tube and I thought my coin is one of those.
     
  9. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    A change happened in 1989, and you think your 1988 has it?
    I don't understand.
    Maybe show photos of both coins and explain it a little better.
    There are 2 different kinds of initials for 1988? The type used in 1988 and
    the type used in 1989? I'm not a mind reader. Try to explain a little more
    in depth.
    It still wouldn't be a transitional error as that could only be the next year
    and not the previous year. It's possible there was a design change with the
    size of the initials, but I don't think it's a dramatic error worth a lot of money since billions of these coins were made. It would depend on how many were made with the new design change.
    For example 1982 was a transitional year because they changed from copper to zinc during the year. So both types of coins exist for 1982. In 1983 all of the cents are supposed to be zinc, but some have been found on old style copper planchets. This is a transitional error and it is rare and valuable.
    So let's see 3 photos. 2 photos from 1988 with the different initials,
    and a photo from 1989.
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2019
  10. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Once again You Tube confuses a new collector. STAY AWAY FROM YOU TUBE!!

    Reed.
     
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  11. Transitional Reverse 1988 1c With Reverse Of 1989
    Part III: Die Installation Errors:
    Transitional Reverse (Minor temporal mismatches):
    1988-P and D Lincoln cents with reverse of 1989


    Definition: Subtle differences in design details can differentiate dies used in different years. Whether accidental or purposeful, obverse dies are sometimes mated with a reverse die meant for a previous or subsequent year. These are often called “transitional reverses”. Well-known examples include 1992(P) and 1992-D Lincoln cent obverses mated to a 1993 reverse.

    Shown below is the normal reverse for 1988 and the reverse used in 1989. Some 1988 obverse dies from both the Philadelphia and Denver Mints were paired with the reverse of 1989. The Philadelphia issues are considered scarce while the Denver issues are considered rare. Research has shown multiple die pairings for both with unknown die runs.

    A noticeable change was made to the font style of the designer’s initials, FG (for Frank Gasparro). The FG on the normal reverse of 1988 is thinner and shows lower relief. The FG on the reverse of 1989 is thicker, more sharply defined, and shows higher relief. The G has a shorter upper curve, a horizontal hook at the tip of the lower curve, and a vertical bar that extends slightly below the body of the G.
    [​IMG]
     
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  12. it's from ERROR-REF.COM
     
  13. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Yes so such a thing exists.
    Now show photos of your coin, 88 with reverse of 89, a regular 88 and
    a regular 89.
     
  14. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    OP, I have found a few of these in circulation and one of the easiest way to tell besides the flared G is by looking at the top part of the G and see if it lines up with the bottom part like in the second set of pics you posted from error ref if it lines up its not the transitional and yours lines up. Good luck on finding one though it took me 5 years after learning about it to find my first.
     
  15. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Eric is there a rough estimate on value on this?
     
  16. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    Well that's a hard one because varieties are a special group of coins but IMHO in AU they should bring 30-50 dollars. I sold 2 of mine to Larry Briggs last year and he was eager to get them. "Note" the ones I am referring to are from the Philadelphia mint and they are more common there are Denver examples and they can go much higher due to scarcity.
     
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  18. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    The G initial is wrong on the OP coin

    Stay away from YouTube
    9 (or more) out of 10 is disinformation.
     
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  19. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    how in the heck do you get "or more" out of a 9/10? ;)
     
  20. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    9.9 ??
    9/10 is just simplified from 90 out of 100 ... Could easily be 99 of 100 or 999 of 1000. Or just don't reference youtube until one knows enough of what is junk and what isn't.
     
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