1987 Washington Quarter-Rim to Rim Die Crack?

Hi guys,

I have this 1987 P Washington Quarter and notice that on the reverse what appears to be a large die crack running from the top rim to the bottom rim. Can someone help me determine if this a large die crack?

 

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Looks to me that your so called die crack is actually post mint damage. Cut from something.

 

Definitely is, you can see the displaced metal fairly easy.

 

Afraid it’s PMD. If you look closely you can see metal on either and both sides of the line. Also, please note how straight the line is. Cracks aren’t that straight. It’s as if someone put a ruler on the coin and then drew a knife across the coin, thus giving the coin its current look.

 

Ok thanks for your answer. This is why I asked the question. I was not sure about this. It's rather strange that someone would actually cut a coin.

 

Let's try and call a spade a spade. PMD means nothing. While it covers an infinite number of things it is bot very specific. The coin's reverse is scratched. The coin's obverse is also but those curved scratches near the rim are probably from a crimping machine.

 

I'll have to disagree. For a large part of people collecting coins, just knowing something is Post Mint Damage as opposed to something worth having is good enough. Doesn't matter if it is scratched, or whatever on most coins.

 

Is the reverse scratched, gouged, or cut?

As @Kasia said, does it really matter what caused the damage? I think everyone agrees it's PMD. Many times, debating what kind of PMD can be an exercise in futility. Just my opinion.

 

Not scratched. Too extensive and deep and straight for that. Maybe could call it gouged, but again, I would think that the rim to rim (even on the edge) kind of negates that. Cut is slightly weird, too, but I can't seem to readily say why.

 

Looks like a knife attack and agree with above.It really doesn't matter,damage is damage but some members are curious as what possibly caused the damage.We're all different in a way you still have 25 cents.

 

Kasia, posted: "l have to disagree. For a large part of people collecting coins, just knowing something is Post Mint Damage as opposed to something worth having is good enough. Doesn't matter if it is scratched, or whatever on most coins."

That's OK. I believe in standards like being the best you can be. So, knowing it is PMD get's the student a "D." I would not wish to be a "D" student.

Oldhoopster, posted: "Is the reverse scratched, gouged, or cut?

IMO, you can say a scratch is a "cut" into something while a "gouge" is more of a "jab" that cut's into a surface. IMO, this is a DEEP SCRATCH as gouges are much wider and usually shorter.

As @Kasia said, does it really matter what caused the damage? [No, the CAUSE is not important. We were not there when it happened. What is important (Only if you wish to be an "A" student) is to be able to describe and then convey what you see to someone who cannot see the coin.] I think everyone agrees it's PMD. Many times, debating what kind of PMD can be an exercise in futility. [Probably true if a bunch of uninformed folks are debating. Furthermore, if anyone thinks I'm being a KIA or too tough with folks satisfied being "D" collectors...] Just my opinion."

Kasia, posted: "Not scratched. [Is too ] Too extensive and deep and straight for that. [I agree with your perfect description of A DEEP SCRATCH!]

Maybe could call it gouged, but again, I would think that the rim to rim (even on the edge) kind of negates that. Cut is slightly weird, too, but I can't seem to readily say why." Great thinking! A very knowledgeable comment.

 

All I can say at this point is "wow" and bless your heart.

 

I like you a lot also [HEART EMOJI] and I'm glad you took my comments as they were intended.

 

You betcha

 

I call this mark a "cut."

 

And I call this a cut.

 

Not cracked, furrowed.

 

Hey "cut." If you put that in the TPGS computer under "details," the boss would call you into the office for a chat and from then on your nickname in the grading room would be "Cut."

 

@Rosalita, an easy tell on such coins is to determine if the mark is incused or raised. Using a wooden tooth pick, or your finger nail, if you have them, gently go over the mark and you should be able to tell if it is incused. If it is, it is most likely a scratch that occurred after it left the mint.

 

That's why I don't work for a TPG. I chose a much simpler job working in material science for the aircraft/aerospace industry.