1987 Lincoln cent

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by William1234, Jul 17, 2017.

  1. William1234

    William1234 New Member

    Okay today's been a good learning day, I've learned about die cracks I learnt that people waste their time grinding pennys down.

    So maybe a third time's a charm so what would I put this down as. 20170714_090628.jpg 20170714_090736.jpg 20170714_091014_Burst01.jpg
     
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  3. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

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  4. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    I'll let a more experienced error collector confirm, but it looks like a die crack from the picture.
     
  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    At this point it is an interior die break. The crack has not come full circle, to be retained it should have shown evidence of coming loose from the die.
     
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  6. William1234

    William1234 New Member

    Thank you gentleman very much I appreciate it.
     
  7. 2Old

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  8. William1234

    William1234 New Member

    Yeah I contacted that website and I'm just waiting to hear back from them.

    Sorencoins told me that, that particular coin hadn't been listed yet.

    That'd be cool if it was a new error considering I only started 4 days ago LOL.
     
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  9. 2Old

    2Old Member

    I got your email and sent you a reply.

    JC
     
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  10. William1234

    William1234 New Member

    Oh that's you I just sent another email I guess I'm an idiot.
    I wasn't able to figure out how to download the images.
     
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  13. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    But retained is when the piece is still attached. Nice find!

    -SC
     
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  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Retained is a term that is used in mostly the rim and a lamination. Interior Die breaks, show up small and then explode into a full die break,
    There has been 0 evidence to show any repetition to this die that says, it is anything other than a lamination,
     
  15. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Pickin, JC (2old above) helps run Cuds-on-Coins. It is a retained interior die break. The "evidence" you seek that qualifies it as so, is a vertical or horizontal shift within the island of the crack. Also, laminations only occur on solid alloy coins, like the war nickels, pre 1965 silver coins, & copper cents. It due to contaminates in the alloy. Not copper plated zinc cents. Read up:

    http://www.error-ref.com/lamination-loss-after-strike/

    http://www.error-ref.com/retained-interior-die-break/

    http://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-cent-retained-interior-die-break/
     
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  16. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    To be sure for myself , I would have to see the coin in hand,
    The coin pictured doesn't meet the criteria for retained interior die break, as Error reference says it, the Photo depicted has an intersecting die break this one doesn't. The first photo on COC has a raised detail the other two Photos don't.
    As I said more evidence either through Photo or, insured mail would clarify this issue, retained lamination, finned edges is my guess.
     
  17. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    This does have slight raised metal. Its more actually a circular die crack if you think about it. Also most retained laminations will at least show a bit of peeling. I'd listen to JC on this one. I've exchanged some nice emails with him.

    -SC
     
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