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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 430878, member: 112&quot;]Sampleslab belongs to Cameron Keifer (sp?), not Conder.</p><p><br /></p><p>Couple of things about the old ANACS certs. Back then they used an entirely different grading standard. Surprisingly, that standard was tightened in later years. What they used to grade a 65 became a 63. But to the best of my knowledge they did not note cleaning back then. They would however refuse issue a cert for some problem coins, just like some of the TPG&#039;s do today.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, the interesting thing is that even though the grading standards were tightened, those coins upgraded when they probably should have been downgraded. That tells you something about how the new ICG grades.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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