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<p>[QUOTE="Kasia, post: 1259304, member: 31533"]<b>Talking to the wind</b></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Sometimes I just loooooove talking to the wind (not), but here goes: </p><p><br /></p><p>I am not an expert on coin errors, but I am learning --- after about 4 or so years of looking at coins for errors and also for separating the common "non-errors" which are generally either machine (or shelf) doubling, die deterioration, or plating scraping issues and have nothing to do with the true doubled-die which is a hub-doubled event and is an error, as the mint has no desire to make double<b>d</b>-die coins. The only thing the double "non-errors" and the doubled have in common is that they are abberations. One is collectible and one is NOT.</p><p><br /></p><p>I would bet dollars to donuts that your experts that have actually looked at the coin have labled it as double (the non-error kind) and not doubled. I would also bet the same that the three expert graders you refer to are the same that work for the (I am assuming) basement grading company you probably paid 20.00 to to grade the coin. I base this on the website I looked at for the Grading Company you referred to, since they state they have three expert graders look at the coin before assigning a grade to it. </p><p><br /></p><p>But then you contradict yourself by saying that these three expert graders (working for a "unknown" grading company with no credentials) are "expert graders who know the difference between die doubling and machine doubling" and then saying that "every double die is machine doubling regardless, but people choose to put value on the coins they believe has value to it". Can't work both ways, is a physical and philosophical impossibility as it is pure contradiction. Unless you live in an alternate universe. Yeah, that's the ticket :rollling:</p><p><br /></p><p>You can believe that you have a genuine double die 'til the cows come home, yet that still doesn't make it a <b>doubled</b>-die coin. You have so many experts that would chime in on this board to you and willingly tell you you have a valuable coin if it were true, with no thought for compensation, but you choose to denigrate their kindnesses by dismissing them (and all at Coin Talk) out of hand because you choose to believe what you believed prior to coming on this with your post.</p><p><br /></p><p>Enjoy your 20.00 dollar encapsulated cent that has doubling somewhere on it, valued or not, and I hope that it at some point inspires you to educate yourself about the different kinds of doubling and which ones are produced by the hub devices being doubled in image prior to being used to strike coins vs. the ones that are not.</p><p><br /></p><p>And I would be willing to bet that I could find more than a thousand examples in the next 10 boxes of cents that I search that would fit in with your double die that is hard to come by. Thus making it not hard to come by.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Kasia, post: 1259304, member: 31533"][b]Talking to the wind[/b] Sometimes I just loooooove talking to the wind (not), but here goes: I am not an expert on coin errors, but I am learning --- after about 4 or so years of looking at coins for errors and also for separating the common "non-errors" which are generally either machine (or shelf) doubling, die deterioration, or plating scraping issues and have nothing to do with the true doubled-die which is a hub-doubled event and is an error, as the mint has no desire to make double[B]d[/B]-die coins. The only thing the double "non-errors" and the doubled have in common is that they are abberations. One is collectible and one is NOT. I would bet dollars to donuts that your experts that have actually looked at the coin have labled it as double (the non-error kind) and not doubled. I would also bet the same that the three expert graders you refer to are the same that work for the (I am assuming) basement grading company you probably paid 20.00 to to grade the coin. I base this on the website I looked at for the Grading Company you referred to, since they state they have three expert graders look at the coin before assigning a grade to it. But then you contradict yourself by saying that these three expert graders (working for a "unknown" grading company with no credentials) are "expert graders who know the difference between die doubling and machine doubling" and then saying that "every double die is machine doubling regardless, but people choose to put value on the coins they believe has value to it". Can't work both ways, is a physical and philosophical impossibility as it is pure contradiction. Unless you live in an alternate universe. Yeah, that's the ticket :rollling: You can believe that you have a genuine double die 'til the cows come home, yet that still doesn't make it a [B]doubled[/B]-die coin. You have so many experts that would chime in on this board to you and willingly tell you you have a valuable coin if it were true, with no thought for compensation, but you choose to denigrate their kindnesses by dismissing them (and all at Coin Talk) out of hand because you choose to believe what you believed prior to coming on this with your post. Enjoy your 20.00 dollar encapsulated cent that has doubling somewhere on it, valued or not, and I hope that it at some point inspires you to educate yourself about the different kinds of doubling and which ones are produced by the hub devices being doubled in image prior to being used to strike coins vs. the ones that are not. And I would be willing to bet that I could find more than a thousand examples in the next 10 boxes of cents that I search that would fit in with your double die that is hard to come by. Thus making it not hard to come by.[/QUOTE]
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