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<p>[QUOTE="Numismat, post: 1316087, member: 15019"]By always do you mean just the last few days? Because we've never debated/argued/thrown turd bombs before that.</p><p><br /></p><p>And sadly, I don't think you understood what I was saying either. Though I'll admit the way I explained it can read like a tongue-twister. But, there really is no easy way to explain these things. If you know of one, let me know, lol.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Ok, I think we are splitting hairs here about one type of clashed die, rather than a clashed die in general.</p><p>Please note that the clash marks in relief here line up with incuse areas of the design on the opposite side. In this case the eyeball and deep features to the right of it.</p><p>As I said earlier, clash marks can only show in relief when there are incuse features in between features in relief, such as with rim denticles. What you have here is a normal clash, but on your coin it seems only the highest relief portions of the die actually made the clash. This is why you only see the evidence from some of the highest relief parts of the die. </p><p>Basically the lower relief parts make incuse impressions, while the higher relief parts isolated withing low relief parts make relief impressions.</p><p>Consequently, the impression on Jefferson's nose is that of the space between the buffalo's underbelly hair, not the hair spikes themselves, as with a typical clash.</p><p><br /></p><p>If the clash were stronger you would see some incuse evidence surrounding the relief impressions, just like on ldhair's coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>You may be thinking that the fields are the highest relief part of the die, and they pretty much are. However, the fields have no detail to impress on the other half.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, technically speaking a die clash is struck incuse on a coin, but depending on the specifics of the coin and physics can sometimes show as relief features or a combination of both. =)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Numismat, post: 1316087, member: 15019"]By always do you mean just the last few days? Because we've never debated/argued/thrown turd bombs before that. And sadly, I don't think you understood what I was saying either. Though I'll admit the way I explained it can read like a tongue-twister. But, there really is no easy way to explain these things. If you know of one, let me know, lol. Ok, I think we are splitting hairs here about one type of clashed die, rather than a clashed die in general. Please note that the clash marks in relief here line up with incuse areas of the design on the opposite side. In this case the eyeball and deep features to the right of it. As I said earlier, clash marks can only show in relief when there are incuse features in between features in relief, such as with rim denticles. What you have here is a normal clash, but on your coin it seems only the highest relief portions of the die actually made the clash. This is why you only see the evidence from some of the highest relief parts of the die. Basically the lower relief parts make incuse impressions, while the higher relief parts isolated withing low relief parts make relief impressions. Consequently, the impression on Jefferson's nose is that of the space between the buffalo's underbelly hair, not the hair spikes themselves, as with a typical clash. If the clash were stronger you would see some incuse evidence surrounding the relief impressions, just like on ldhair's coin. You may be thinking that the fields are the highest relief part of the die, and they pretty much are. However, the fields have no detail to impress on the other half. So, technically speaking a die clash is struck incuse on a coin, but depending on the specifics of the coin and physics can sometimes show as relief features or a combination of both. =)[/QUOTE]
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