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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;desertgem, post: 25508804, member: 15199&quot;]The big confusion is that 30+ years ago people were make lists of variations&nbsp; online that the ones we know today were not true doubled dies DDO or DDR, but, instead like Eddie describes, BUT those old variations are still online and newcomers believe them and some old timers here do also, but the originators leave them on line since people still use them in &quot;hoping&quot;. IMO, others may have different ideas.&nbsp; Jim[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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