1983 Penny ?? what do you think ??

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by AdamKilledAbel, Feb 14, 2021.

  1. It looks like the 3 got stamped again but the 9 could have been too so Idk what to call it hence why I thought I would sample here
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    cropped-letting-go-open-hands.jpg At first I was going to type Machine doubling then I saw the 3 and it looked strange it did . What do think it is should be the first question ? Coin therapy is good for your Soul it is . This way we know the correct course for treatment ..
     
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  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Maybe it's strike doubling with a twist ( 1930 -three over a 2 ? Ahhh, now contemplate that one . :bookworm:
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Negativty? Animosity? Only to those who try to start trouble. I love this forum and many of it's fine members.. plenty of other members share the same feelings about me!
    I do take it easy.. I've been through too much in my life not to. Your 'opinion' about me is not necessary and does not bother me one bit. Hope you stop your comments about me or anyone else from this point on. This is CoinTalk not let's bash the members talk.

    BTW.. What does Adam killed Abel mean anyway?
    Cain killed Abel last I checked.. Actually I did a sermon about the story in Genesis this past Sunday.
     
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  6. 1stSgt22

    1stSgt22 I'm just me! Supporter

    Love that ignore button!
     
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  7. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    While it’s always a good idea to keep an open mind, at some point you need to look at reality. How could this occur during the minting process? You need more evidence than just saying “I think it’s an anomaly”. Experts like Fred Weinberg and Mike Byers can get away with that, but the rest of us have to provide a plausible theory, especially when others say it’s PMD or a minor error. The shape doesn't match a 9 so it clearly isn't a doubled die nor could it be a repunched/overdate, as you proposed. The full date is added to the die making process well before the working die step (I believe it was added at the master die step in 1983 and now the mint makes a new Master hub each year with the full date) so there is no opportunity or tooling to repunch a digit on the production floor.

    There are many members who have a great deal of knowledge regarding the minting process. Some are also experienced in metallurgy, tool and die, metal machining/stamping, high volume manufacturing processes, etc. These people are telling you that this is not something new. If you believe they’re wrong, you need to provide a theory on how it happened. Trust me, if you have a reasonable explanation of something new, it will get serious discussion. Some of us do have open minds, but we need the evidence. So far, you have provided nothing but an opinion (you seem to do this on other posts as well).


    For the record, I think the marks are minor die chips/gouges but wouldn’t rule out a plating blister.

    BTW: The coin you posted in #18 is an overdate, 3 over 2. It looks like a Belgium 50 centimes and is listed in Numista along with other overdates. This wasn't uncommon 90+ years ago, German half marks and marks from the 1900s and teens comes to mind, but it's not something that occurs in the modern, high volume production process at the mint

    https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces511.html
     
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  8. Not Bashing anyone , you should try The same . I'm Not starting trouble so No need to get aggressive . You do realize your old posts show up when you Google any coin that you've "commented" on ?.. I understand it might be frustrating n whatnot but I'm here not for trouble but to Question what you consider reality because you were once told that or saw it somewhere. Like My name , we only know what we were told . I don't really doubt the Cain and Able story , but that's all it is in the end ayye ? A story . Anyway just ignore me if you dislike what I'm saying Obviously many have and will and that's fine . In other forums as well . I don't know enough about it yet and I'd appreciate your Knowledge Respectfully. I'm simply seeing what's plausible and sometimes gauging your responses To , not just on the coin/topic . With regards to More than One , I definitely disagree . I think it's Very Possible to have One of some specific error seeing how many were Disregarded and Destroyed if they were Flawed . We shall see I don't think I Disrespected anyone by referencing events that Occured with context . It's a dog eat dog world out there . I like my Dog so I'm not gonna eat him . Good day
     
  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Oh.. You're back again..
    Listen. Life is definitely short. So relax.

    Bye
     
  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    All is good in the neighborhood !
     
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