1983 penny die brake?

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  1. Rob336

    Rob336 Member

    I'm looking for some opinions on if y'all think this is a die brake or not. It under the date on the bottom of coat. Thanks for any help. Picture_20184301084332.jpg Picture_20184301084332.jpg Picture_20184301084332.jpg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    The word is actually break not brake

    I can't tell what the picture shows
     
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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I am leaning against a cud, because of the evidence of a double rim to the left of it. Might be damage, could be from a finned rim.
     
  5. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    Are you talking about what looks like a piece of the bust broke off at the bottom? Probably took a hit.
     
  6. vintagemintage

    vintagemintage Well-Known Member

    There's a lot of die polishing marks in that area, maybe lost some detail on the bust over-polishing.
     
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  7. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    If you're talking about the separation there at the bottom point of the coat, that's the result of die polishing. The low relief area between the coat and the triangular segment has been polished down to the level the field creating the separation.
     
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  8. Rob336

    Rob336 Member

    Thanks for the response. I found this coin roll hunting, and wasn't sure.
     
  9. Rob336

    Rob336 Member

    I'm not arguing the points made. Just got a question. Would the piece be moved away from polishing? And why would someone polish it?
     
  10. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    If you've any playdough or the like, take some and press a coin into it. The result will be akin to a die that produced the coin. Now imagine polishing some of the playdough (metal) away; some of the high points can become flattened to the same level as the fields and is pretty much what you're seeing here.

    The piece wasn't moved, but part of the design connecting it to the rest of the bust was essentially removed.
     
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  11. Rob336

    Rob336 Member

    Makes sense thanks.
     
  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Are you serious? Play dough? Play dough was invented to make removing wallpaper easier. I think in the 1930's. Play dough is made from water, flour, salt, mineral oil and boric acid. Would you use that on your coins? :stop:
     
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  13. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Please try to set your feigned outrage aside long enough to actually think about what was said. You'll figure it out.
     
  14. Rick Stachowski

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  15. Rob336

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  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    No outrage here. You can't handle the truth!!!
     
  17. Rob336

    Rob336 Member

    Alright people. I didn't meen to cause an spit. He was just using the text as an reference. It makes sense.
     
  18. AUAGBUG

    AUAGBUG Member

    He was using the playdough analogy to (brilliantly) illustrate the die polishing scenario. Reading is fundamental.
     
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  19. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    The "truth"... ha! Bovine excrement would be a better descriptor.

    Aside from what has already been said, did you happen to notice that I didn't suggest the OP place this coin or any potentially valuable coin into playdough? Just in case, let's revisit....

    "If you've any playdough or the like, take some and press a coin into it."

    Perhaps you're right, though. God forbid some circulated nothing cent pulled from one's pocket be pressed into playdough for a few seconds so that someone can better visualize a die. After all, with only tens of billions out there the loss of or even minor damage to a single one would be catastrophic, even apocalyptic! Oh, the horror!

    Again, think before you attack. Reading comprehension is a virtue, sir.
     
  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Then try it as excitement is what you spew.
     
  21. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    And I know it never occurred to you that novices on CT wouldn't know any better.
     
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