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<p>[QUOTE="Kristine Garrant, post: 8252304, member: 124772"]Ok. I have found every combination for the Denver and Philadelphia mints. (D lg/zinc, D lg/ bronze, D sm/ zinc etc)..</p><p><br /></p><p>But basically they are not worth anything unless the are in a MS condition?</p><p><br /></p><p>Is this true of all errors? Hence the reason why they are so coveted? Value = mint + error type + condition of coin in every case? So when its stated to be an error coin ...the value isnt in the error alone, its in a the combination of factors, some of which have no relation at all to error classification itself?</p><p><br /></p><p>I was under the impression the allure was all about the fact the coin contained an error. But if its not MS, then its worhless. Even if its a MS 66. Which experts cant even hardly tell the difference between MS 67 and MS 66. So why such a completely dramatic drop in value? I mean it plummets.</p><p><br /></p><p>And if the condition of the coin is the mitigating factor, as seen in values of non error MS coins. Then why go through the trouble to cateorgize all the different varieties?</p><p><br /></p><p>My logic is this. Something is usually listed under its own subtitle when it is slightly different from the original or to identify from a group. I.e. Bumblebee, a very popular Transformer. He is a Transformer, a Cybertronian, and of the Autobots clan. These names are to identify him.</p><p><br /></p><p> Or take gold ..each numbered karat defining exactly how much gold is it. Or to classify.</p><p><br /></p><p> Also of causing/producing a difference in effects, which could be both Identification and classification, such as flammable and non flammable.</p><p><br /></p><p>So I guess what I am asking is that the major category here, above all else, is the condition and original quality of a coin? Then THOSE are sub divided into ancient, modern etc. Which are then in turn placed from their country of origin, metal content, la de da, u do get what i am asking right? And errors/varieties being just another sub category for identification by collectors? But its not something that can stand on its own?</p><p><br /></p><p>And if MS 66 amd MS 67 are extremely hard to to tell the difference in then why the outrageous drop in value no matter how many there are or are not of each?</p><p><br /></p><p>If its not discernible to the average collector or even expert, then why is its value reflect that?</p><p><br /></p><p>Can someone help me to understand this please? I say this cause if the orginal look is so highly sought after, then why does cleaning them(properly) not increase the value but decrease it. If a collector wants it to be as is, then why no value in the dirty well circulated ones? Or why isnt there professional coin cleaners readily available like carpet cleaners or restoration services? And i am not talking about nick, dents and dings damage.. I mean a dirty Picasso is still a Picasso, rt?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Kristine Garrant, post: 8252304, member: 124772"]Ok. I have found every combination for the Denver and Philadelphia mints. (D lg/zinc, D lg/ bronze, D sm/ zinc etc).. But basically they are not worth anything unless the are in a MS condition? Is this true of all errors? Hence the reason why they are so coveted? Value = mint + error type + condition of coin in every case? So when its stated to be an error coin ...the value isnt in the error alone, its in a the combination of factors, some of which have no relation at all to error classification itself? I was under the impression the allure was all about the fact the coin contained an error. But if its not MS, then its worhless. Even if its a MS 66. Which experts cant even hardly tell the difference between MS 67 and MS 66. So why such a completely dramatic drop in value? I mean it plummets. And if the condition of the coin is the mitigating factor, as seen in values of non error MS coins. Then why go through the trouble to cateorgize all the different varieties? My logic is this. Something is usually listed under its own subtitle when it is slightly different from the original or to identify from a group. I.e. Bumblebee, a very popular Transformer. He is a Transformer, a Cybertronian, and of the Autobots clan. These names are to identify him. Or take gold ..each numbered karat defining exactly how much gold is it. Or to classify. Also of causing/producing a difference in effects, which could be both Identification and classification, such as flammable and non flammable. So I guess what I am asking is that the major category here, above all else, is the condition and original quality of a coin? Then THOSE are sub divided into ancient, modern etc. Which are then in turn placed from their country of origin, metal content, la de da, u do get what i am asking right? And errors/varieties being just another sub category for identification by collectors? But its not something that can stand on its own? And if MS 66 amd MS 67 are extremely hard to to tell the difference in then why the outrageous drop in value no matter how many there are or are not of each? If its not discernible to the average collector or even expert, then why is its value reflect that? Can someone help me to understand this please? I say this cause if the orginal look is so highly sought after, then why does cleaning them(properly) not increase the value but decrease it. If a collector wants it to be as is, then why no value in the dirty well circulated ones? Or why isnt there professional coin cleaners readily available like carpet cleaners or restoration services? And i am not talking about nick, dents and dings damage.. I mean a dirty Picasso is still a Picasso, rt?[/QUOTE]
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