1982 lincoln cent

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Avery G., Oct 21, 2019.

  1. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    I found this coin awhile ago. On the obverse in the head area are strike throughs. One appears to be a nail and the other a string of some kind. The reverse has a strike through that look like a larger nail or a piece of metal. There is also a large bevel on entire rim of reverse. Any thoughts?
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    Nail - Die Crack
    String - Plating Blister
    The rest... Damage.

    Nothing major. All common issues on Copper Plated Zinc Cents. No strike throughs of any kind.
     
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  4. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    There aren't plating blisters on copper cent only zinc cents. This coin is copper 3.1g. The nail is incused not raised. Die cracks are generally raised and this is an incused impression. Impressions takes the shape of whatever was struck into the coin. Thanks.
     
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  5. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    You can see some of the pillars on the memorial are clearly flattened amd widened. The reverse "nail" is PMD.

    There's a small die crack on his head. You used the word nail twice, which is why there is confusion. @paddyman98 was talking about the "nail" on the obverse, not the larger "nail" on the reverse.

    The coin is ever so slightly off center, which has no real premium.

    The rest is damage. I would toss the coin back to the pile and keep looking.
     
  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    My mistake. I definitely know that. Too early in the morning. No coffee yet.
    It's still not any kind of strike through.
     
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  7. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    Why do you guys say PMD?
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  8. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster It seemed like a good idea at the time.

     
  9. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    Could a coin be a true strike through and is damaged during circulation leaving displaced metal? This is a circulated coin. Or does it negate the strike through. Just asking. Thanks for not just saying PMD.
     
  10. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    Because it looks like PMD.

    When something is minted it takes shape of the die as the die is 3 dimensional. The die is a REVERSE image of the coin. So where the coin is raised, the die is incused, and vice versa. This allows the metal to flow in to the shape/design element, or to be pushed away in the flat areas into a design element.

    When you see something on your coin where a shape is shifted, flattened etc. ... then that is NOT the shape of the die, thus it was done afterwards.

    Think of a cookie cutter.
    When you cut a cookie shape, then if you flatten the cookie some, how do you determine it was flattened after you cut it versus during cutting it?

    or if you like cars, a cars hood is stamped such as a coin, except in a really big press.
    If you crash that car into a tree and it's hood shape is changed, how you know it was crashed versus just accidentally stamped that way?
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2019
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  11. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    Ok, thanks. I will have it checked by someone in hand. What about the beveled edge on reverse. Did someone alter this. If so how? It doesn't look grinded.
     
  12. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    Let me ask you this first. How does the beveled edge relate to the 2 dies and collar used in the minting press ?.

    Also, damage may not be just one instance of something. If something was damaged, then circulated in which circulation wear is a second instance ...

    you never know about some things unless you place an RFID chip on all coins minted and track it's complete history of what, where, how and when. Other than that it becomes a guess. Although an educated guess based on experience and knowledge.
     
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  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    No strike through, mostly Damage and 2 minor very common Zinc coin problems.
     
  14. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    How can a copper coin have zinc coin problems? This coin is copper 3g+. Again, thanks guys!!
     
  15. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster It seemed like a good idea at the time.

    I just noticed the full obv and rev pics in your first post. For some reason, most of us are getting overwhelmed by the number of pics and missing the info about the weight as well as the first 2 pics

    It’s obvious that the damage is similar to what would happen to a dryer coin. Notice, the mushy appearance of the devices and fold over of the rev rim. A dryer coin takes numerous small hits and dings as it tumbles (Doesn’t have to be a dryer, being trapped in any type of rotating equipment could cause the same effect). That explains the marks you see. Mystery solved.

    I feel bad that I missed this earlier :bag:
     
  16. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity Supporter

    Supplying the weight info from the start would have avoided confusion.

    Sorry, this just looks like a worn 82 large date with PMD...Spark
     
  17. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    I said that in my second post, so every post after that just overlooked it. Thanks
     
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  18. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity Supporter

    You are right...we all missed the correction until @Oldhoopster said something...Spark
     
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  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Just a regular coin. People are looking for damage and not able to figure out if you hit with a hammer. Don't it look like a coin hit with a hammer
     
  20. Mike185

    Mike185 Well-Known Member

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