1982 D Nickel error sintered - improper annealing - burnt -Black Beauty?

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  1. Jral1

    Jral1 Member

    My dime fits perfectly with this discription of what a copper dime should look like.

     
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    Most seem to believe that this coin is just inviromental damage(What inviroment the annealing oven's inviroment?) Or that this coin looks like it came out of my dog's but.(jealous much?) If that was the case I would be burrying coins all the time and feeding them to my dog along with his food and following him around till he pooos cause ive never seen a coin like this have you?
    1981 silvercopper reverse maacro.jpg
     
  5. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Can someone please shut this thread down? The OP is taking none of our advice and now bumping the thread with unrelated coins and increasingly absurd posts.

    Your coin is damaged. You'll have to either accept that fact from us, or waste $50 to have a TPG tell you.
     
  6. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Yes I have seen many coins like this one that I picked up off the ground where we burn paper trash. I use sand to scrub them and then they are spendable . all of that crusty buildup would not be on your coin if it was a sintered or improper annealed coin because if it was struck this way it would be pushed down level to the surface of the coin.I found a statement I liked on the interned and copied it for you to read.

    jral 1 read this :
    Sintering errors have largely been debunked and the term is not interchangeable with improperly annealed planchet. Sintering involves a high temperature powder coating of metal dust fusing to the planchet. Improperly annealed coins have been attributed to a migration of metal atoms in an alloy due to the high heat, a thin layer of pure copper forms on the surface. Attribution is virtually impossible on a circulated coin, the presence of luster is critical to rule out manipulation.

    I believe what this person said and when a circulated coin is found like this regardless of what caused the problem it can never be proven to be a mint error because this can happen outside of the mint in many ways. you can call it what you want to but it is no good for a error or variety collector if it can not be slabbed as authentic. I wish the coin had worked out better for you but it is what it is.
     
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  7. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    To all!! There is a thin line between showing a coin more than the one time necessary in a thread and self promotion. We have shut down other members who try to show their "unique" coin in any and every thread, and often to irritate members who are tired of it.

    Jral1, your coins are such. No more of the ones already posted. Stop as of the time of this post.
     
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  8. Jral1

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    Everything you see on this coin is struck into the coin there is no dirt there is no corrosion. there is hardly a piece of lint on it. the surface is as flat as any dime all of the darkend metal flecks and specks along with the darkened marbled area which is actually clad metal and has a good luster and shines bright when you tilt it in the light along with the rest of the coin besides the fact that looks like it was struck on a hardened/britle planchet or an improper alloy mix in the coin stock or a combination of things along those lines. some coin planchets get polished in a drum of tiny be-be's I even thought for a second that maybe some of those be-be's got stuck on this planchet and then were Struck Into the coin. But it looks more like what i have read about metal dust being struck onto a coins surface but there is never any pictures and even google is limited to what you can find cause there are new things being found all the time and the rabit hole only gets deeper. My wildest idea was that this dime was struck ONE MILLION TIMES and due to the extreme number of strikes and amount of presure used nickel turned into copper!. (ok maybe not one million but lets say 10 or 20 or 30 or so) now that would be a cool trick!

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    Those pictures alone are worth a million words.I could probably do a few more modifications and sell them as hotel hallway art or something With the coin inlayed at the bottom of the frame now that would be great.
     
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  9. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    So first it's improper annealing, then it is struck into the coin, now it's struck one million times, causing the nickel to turn into copper? What's next, space radiation? Stop wasting time with insane theories, 4-page threads that do nothing but get on people's nerves and go do some actual reading on the minting process.
     
  10. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    jral 1 i'm trying to help you understand about this dime. regardless of what happened to it at the mint or after leaving the mint it is only worth a dime. like I tried to tell you earlier after a sintered or improper annealed coin has been out in circulation they can not be proven as a mint error because anything can happen in circulation. even if it was solid copper after being circulated it would be no good because about anyone can easily remove the nickel clad layers. if the coin was in brand new mint condition then that would be different. If it was me I would put this one aside and go find some good error and variety coins.
     
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  11. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    One time I picked through the debris of a burned out building and found all kinds of crap like that.
     
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  12. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Error coin identification requires much more than simply "reading" about certain errors' Folks must be able to "comprehend" what they are reading and then equate that to physical examinations of actual error's.

    The images continually posted by the OP have all the "appearances" of being environmentally damaged (and not the annealing oven environment) and as such are quickly labeled as nothing more than environmental damage.

    Additionally, given the OP's penchant for altering his/her photographs to suit his/her needs, it is understandable why so many poopoo the posts.

    The bottom line is that defending an attribution based upon poor photographs is simply a dead end street and most posters figure this out after a page or two of replies.

    Those that don't simply irritate everybody else who continue to encourage the OP to submit the coin to a reputable error attribution service so that the real "professionals" can actually examine the original coin and make a correct determination as to what type or kind of error it may or may not be.

    I would encourage the OP to stop antagonizing the reputable posters on this forum and simply submit the coin to ANACS or CONECA and then post the triumphant results for all to see how astute the OP actually might be at digging up these error coins.

    We could all end up with egg on our faces...........

    OR


    Someone might actually learn something.

    BTW, sintering requires high heat and metallic dust of some type. It could be closely related to the same process that is used to powder coat certain aluminum wheels in different colors.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintering
     
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  13. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    JRAL, you must not have read or comprehended my post #66.

    This coin has no value, no error significance, no explanation other than damage. Put it in a drawer or send it off to be attributed, but no more!
     
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