A knowledgeable collector would know that because these were not packaged by the US Mint that there is no way of knowing if the coins are truly uncirculated or not except to evaluate them one by one for him/herself. A knowledgeable collector seeking 1982 or 1983 Mint uncirculated sets would more likely prefer the Mint souvenir sets to no sets at all. Therefore to the knowledgeable collector these sets have no value above face and to more directly answer your question, I would say that they are worth face. My original comment left open the fact that you can sell almost anything on eBay for a profit, but if you're asking value of these to a knowledgeable collector, I would say non-existent.
I worked as a coin grader for the largest ebay dealer. I graded 500,000 coins in a matter of few months. As a reliable seller on ebay I can assure you these coins are truly uncirculated. The quarters themselves are probably the best examples of raw coins I have ever seen. Also, any knowledgeable collector may take my word for it or use the 14 day no questions ask return policy I provide and snag these up for their sets or if nothing else bust them out for their Danscos or what have you. I am not questioning anything you have said but I do believe these sets would make any "knowledgeable" collector happy.
It's all in how you market them. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Philad...78?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item415fba94ea http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-PC-1982-...96?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item27be1e66dc
Compared to the quality of the sets that the mint put out during this time period, as long as the coins in these sets are indeed uncirculated, they are worth at least as much as the real mint sets. Given the value of the 82 and 83 quarters in uncirculated condition I would definitely pay a premium over face.
Not really, mint sets from those years command a premium not because of the coins contained within, but because they are the "key dates" of mint sets, so to speak. They're worth the value of each individual coin in its particular grade.
This is true yet they don't exist outside of the souvy sets. Either which was unc coins from these years do carry a nice premium. I am about to just list them as auctions and let them ride. I'll let whomever wants them decide what they'd like to pay for these "unofficial" mint sets. It's the only fair way I can figure out what to do with them.
Average lower grade unc 1982 and 83 quarters may sell for a premium, but it's a small one. The ones that sell for a large premium are the ones in gem grades of MS-65 or better. I think that the people who assemble these sets can grade coins fairly well and as they searched through the rolls (or bags) of coins that they culled out the gems and packaged the rest. You make more money that way. You sell the mediocre coins as sets, and the gems as gems. This is why I recommend against buying these after-market sets. The reason (at least IMHO) that you buy mint sealed sets is because the coins haven't been cherry-picked for quality. In these after-market sets, I would almost guarantee the opposite.
I would also add that at no point in your OP did you say that you were selling them, you merely asked what my 2¢ was. I meant nothing against your coins, I was commenting on these items in general.
In those days nobody was paying any attention to modern coins and nobody cared about high quality clad. Indeed, it appears that the Numis News sets as well as a couple others were the choice coins from choice bags and not the dregs. They do vary but generally speaking the quality of all the '82 and '83 privately packaged sets run from slightly better to much better than you could find in pocket change. Of course there were a lot of dogs in the sets too just like pocket change. Both the Paul and Judy sets and the Numis News sets tend better than the US Mint souvenir sets. The souvenir sets are specially picked for quality from press runs. I think Numis News probably was able to pull out the best of several bags.
The souvenir sets do get a set premium. It's probably better for collectors to seek coins that don't have this premium because it can disappear. Ultimately a coin has to stand on its own merits. The set premium could even increase but in the long run the sets will always be worth the sum total of the coins in them. I'd be happy to trade souvenir sets for Numis News sets all day long if they are not picked over. Unsurprisingly I'd be trading the poorer quality souvenir sets.
king, It is MHO that the reason that the souvenir sets command a premium is because they are Mint packaged sets and that remains regardless of the condition of the coins within. In fact, the sum of the coins still doesn't equal the price because people are paying the premium in this particular case for the packaging rather than the coins. I agree that I'd trade the Krause sets for Souvenir sets all day long and twice on Sunday. I also agree that if you want a gem coin, then buy the gem coin regardless of its source. If you collect the sets for the sake of having sets, then the coins within really don't matter as much. Having the sets is the main priority.
I disagree completely. I and I'm sure most collectors when composing their mint and proof set collection aim to get the best coins possible that are included in the sets. No one want's nasty toning or damaged sets/coins.