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<p>[QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 1908712, member: 15929"]PCGS is caught between the old and the new where the "Old" represents established and accepted RedBook varieties while the "New" represents new varieties along the lines of "CPG" Varieties.</p><p><br /></p><p>By that, I mean that some varieties have been around since "before" the CPG. The collecting community (dealers and collectors) felt that these were collectible varieties that collectors should strive to look for. These coin received original PCGS Coin numbers which usually were 4 digits long.</p><p><br /></p><p>When the CPG came out, it listed some "established" and some "new" varieties that are popular among the various coin organizations and groups that specialize in a certain Type or Series of coins. (i.e. ALL Nickels vs Jefferson Nickels. All Quarters vs Barber Quarters)</p><p><br /></p><p>Back around 2005/2006, with the release of the COG Fifth Edition Vol1, collectors began wondering why certain varieties within the CPG were not "recognized" or "attributed" by PCGS since no "coin number" existed for the specific varieties. I distinctly recall David Hall saying that PCGS would attribute and grade any coin which appeared within the CPG. (Keeping in mind that the CPG originally only addressed cents and nickels whereas the 5th Edition Vol 1 addressed all other coins.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Since "established" varieties which PCGS already recognized and attributed were included in the CPG with an "FS" number, PCGS decided that there would be TWO version of these coins. One with the original attribution (such as the 1972/72 DDO perhaps the 1964 Accented Hair Kennedy Proof)) and one with the CPG Attribution (1972/72 DDO FS-101 and 1964 Accented Hair FS-401).</p><p><br /></p><p>Since both versions have equal weight within the Registries (standard vs FS Numbered slab labels), it behooves the submitter to KNOW which coins are pre-CPG attributable and which coins are NOT. The difference can save the submitter $24 per coin in attribution fee's with the exact same results!</p><p><br /></p><p>For the OP, there are two different coin numbers for the 1981-S SBA Type 2 coin. Specifically:</p><p><br /></p><p>9595 = 1981-S SBA Proof Type 2 which is attributable at just the grading fee</p><p>AND</p><p>395259 = 1981-S SBA Type 2 FS-501 which will cost the submitter the standard grading fee PLUS the $24 attribution fee!</p><p><br /></p><p>The submitter MUST use the appropriate coin number when submitting the coin since PCGS "may" default to the $24 attribution version which, IMO, is just a waste of money.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, my advice and response to the OP's question is to simply indicate the 9595 coin number on the submission form and state that its a Type 2 coin in the Variety Column.</p><p><br /></p><p>The coin will get graded, attributed, and all for just the $16 Modern Coin Fee instead of a $40 combined fee.</p><p><br /></p><p>Make sense?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 1908712, member: 15929"]PCGS is caught between the old and the new where the "Old" represents established and accepted RedBook varieties while the "New" represents new varieties along the lines of "CPG" Varieties. By that, I mean that some varieties have been around since "before" the CPG. The collecting community (dealers and collectors) felt that these were collectible varieties that collectors should strive to look for. These coin received original PCGS Coin numbers which usually were 4 digits long. When the CPG came out, it listed some "established" and some "new" varieties that are popular among the various coin organizations and groups that specialize in a certain Type or Series of coins. (i.e. ALL Nickels vs Jefferson Nickels. All Quarters vs Barber Quarters) Back around 2005/2006, with the release of the COG Fifth Edition Vol1, collectors began wondering why certain varieties within the CPG were not "recognized" or "attributed" by PCGS since no "coin number" existed for the specific varieties. I distinctly recall David Hall saying that PCGS would attribute and grade any coin which appeared within the CPG. (Keeping in mind that the CPG originally only addressed cents and nickels whereas the 5th Edition Vol 1 addressed all other coins.) Since "established" varieties which PCGS already recognized and attributed were included in the CPG with an "FS" number, PCGS decided that there would be TWO version of these coins. One with the original attribution (such as the 1972/72 DDO perhaps the 1964 Accented Hair Kennedy Proof)) and one with the CPG Attribution (1972/72 DDO FS-101 and 1964 Accented Hair FS-401). Since both versions have equal weight within the Registries (standard vs FS Numbered slab labels), it behooves the submitter to KNOW which coins are pre-CPG attributable and which coins are NOT. The difference can save the submitter $24 per coin in attribution fee's with the exact same results! For the OP, there are two different coin numbers for the 1981-S SBA Type 2 coin. Specifically: 9595 = 1981-S SBA Proof Type 2 which is attributable at just the grading fee AND 395259 = 1981-S SBA Type 2 FS-501 which will cost the submitter the standard grading fee PLUS the $24 attribution fee! The submitter MUST use the appropriate coin number when submitting the coin since PCGS "may" default to the $24 attribution version which, IMO, is just a waste of money. So, my advice and response to the OP's question is to simply indicate the 9595 coin number on the submission form and state that its a Type 2 coin in the Variety Column. The coin will get graded, attributed, and all for just the $16 Modern Coin Fee instead of a $40 combined fee. Make sense?[/QUOTE]
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