1981 Quarter Rim-restricted Design Duplication?

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  1. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    One key thing with the RRDD is there is no trace of the letter in the field between the letter and the rim. The subject coin does show the leter between the two. I would say this is the result of die wear. We know that die wear can cause a "doubling" effect or a radially outward "stretching of the letters. Usually you just see this between the letters and the rim. But if during the strike the coin picks up this stretched image and then the edge of the coin rises up to fill the rim, you should see that "stretched" image of the letter running from the letter, across the field, and up onto the top surface of the rim. That would match what we are seeing on the op coin.
     
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  3. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    With the coin in hand I find I must retract my original conclusion that the extra letters on the rim represent die deterioration. It now appears that this indeed a case of rim-restricted design duplication. The design rim is flattened between the letter traces, and the same pattern of die flow lines that appears in the coin's field has been transferred to the design rim.

    This is the first case of RRDD I've encountered in a quarter.
     
  4. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Very interesting analysis and congrats to Tommycent for this fascinating piece!
     
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  5. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    Thanks! This is real good news Hands down this is best find I had yet!!!
     
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  6. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Awesome find Tommy! Congrats!
     
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  7. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    Thanks!
     
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  8. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    While rummaging through a container of minor errors, I found a 1979-D dime with RRDD involving the last few letters of LIBERTY. Years ago I had dismissed it as die deterioration since, like the quarter, it's a late die state. Both coins will appear in my Coin World write up week after next.
     
  9. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    cool sounds good. also congrats on Your find..
     
  10. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    I have a hunch that such errors are more common than anyone realizes. But the rims on these dimes and quarters are so thin, that the extra elements are easy to miss or dismiss as die deterioration. I'll be keeping my eyes open from now on.
     
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  11. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    I love having something new to look for! Thanks for bringing this up Tommy. Proof that no question is a dumb question!
     
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  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    This coin made this week's Coin World (December 30). Mike Diamond's article about rim restricted design duplication.
     
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  13. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I hope the RRDD coins are worth something , I have lots of the presidental golden dollars with this anomaly .
     
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  14. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

  15. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Nice find Tommy.
     
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  16. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

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  17. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    Thanks.
     
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