1972 DDO?

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  1. Stacey H.

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  3. Stacey H.

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    I can see doubling on this coin. Any thoughts? 20200121_000145.jpg 20200121_000200.jpg Screenshot_20200120-235437_Gallery.jpg
  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    I see a double thread. Somehow you created a duplicate thread.
  5. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Well-Known Member

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  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Not a true DDO
  8. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    if you read the link, apparently 60-70% of ALL 1972 cents produced has this doubling. That should make it fairly easy to find.

    pretty kewl to see though
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  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I don't get it, Rick. Why did you post the link to the 001? Are you trying to confuse Stacey? ~ Chris
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  11. enamel7

    enamel7 Junior Member

    All I see is md.
  12. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    That is the master hub doubled one. Not the real DDO-001.
  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

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  14. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    not "DDO"

    It's the LAST listing (not the first) on the page Rick gave
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  15. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Much better explanation.
    One reason I don't like that site. Cant link to specific coins.
  16. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

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  17. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    But, you can copy it!

    1972 1¢ WMDO-001 Doubled Master Die

    Description: An extremely close Class I CW spread shows on the letters of LIBERTY, IGWT, and the horizontal bar of the 2 in the date. On early die state specimens the E of WE appears to show tripling suggesting a CCW spread in addition to the CW spread.

    Die Markers: Obverse: The affected master die shows a short die gouge extending eastward inside the upper S of TRUST. Other obverse die markers will vary with the different working dies that were affected. Reverse: Die markers will vary with the different working dies that were affected.

    Submitted By: John A. Wexler

    Cross References: CONECA: MD-1-O-I-CW+II-C (formerly listed as MD-5-O-I-CW+II-C), Crawford: CDDO-005 (MD)

    Values: No extra value!!!

    Comments: Shortly after the various obverse doubled die cent varieties were produced that year, the Lincoln cent master die for 1972 failed and a new one had to be produced. Clearly the Mint was having problems that year with the hubbing process as was evidenced by the many doubled die varieties produced. Those problems carried over to the second master die that was produced for the Lincoln cents that year. That second master die was produced with minor doubling. It is estimated that the doubled master die was created somewhere around April or May of 1972. All of the Lincoln cents struck by working dies that descended from the doubled master die show this minor doubling. The doubling can be seen on the letters of IGWT, the letters of LIBERTY, and very slightly on the date. Since 60% to 70% of all Lincoln cents for 1972 show this doubling, it is far too common to have any value. This includes 1972 D-Mint, S-Mint, and proof coins produced that year. Newer doubled die collectors should be very careful if responding to ads for 1972 doubled die Lincoln cents. There are individuals out there trying to sell specimens of this doubled master die for premiums far in excess of what they should be. You should not be paying more than the normal numismatic value of a 1972 cent for 1972 cents with this master die doubling. Those trying to sell them to unsuspecting buyers advertise them as “genuine doubled dies” which they are. The ads are truthful in that respect, but they fail to tell you that it is a specimen of the doubled master die that can easily be found without paying a premium for it. Back when they were first listed they were assigned a listing number of 1972 1¢ MD-5-O-I+II. Those trying to sell them at a premium identify them as “5-O-I+II” but they leave off the master die indicator “MD.” If you are fairly new to doubled die collecting, don’t let yourself fall victim to these scams. If you would like to add a specimen of the doubled master die to your collection for educational purposes, go out and look for them yourself. Since the majority of 1972 cents show this doubling, you should easily find one for the cost of a “regular” 1972 Lincoln cent.




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  18. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    lol ..
    <ctrl><end> takes you to the end, then PageUp
    or do <ctrl>-F and type MDO and it will take you right there too.

    otherwise it's like 200 PageDowns lol @furryfrog02
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  19. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

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  20. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    you can use it on any webpage. Control key + F is just "Find/Search" for visible text.

    control key - End
    control key - Home - takes you to the Top or Bottom of a webpage

    write it on a little post it note on your computer.
  21. igotchange

    igotchange Member

    Remember what?
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