1972-D five cent misprint major error

Easy folks.

It may be another prime example of the new fatherless families we now deal with......

 

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Was it really so hard for someone to explain the details to this new person rather than just say yes or no?

Then some told him that if he knew how coins were minted, then he would know. Great - How about educating the guy right here?

Instead people just expect him to take their word for it, and the guy ends up getting a bad taste in his mouth about this hobby and the people involved.

I am glad I started on a different forum where people are wanting to mentor.

In case he would happen to come back:

That ring of marks around Jefferson's effigy is not part of any normal nickel's design. The dies that are engraved to make this coin design do not have this ring of marks or that ring would be a common occurrence. This is proof that something was pressed or hit onto the face of your nickel beause the design had to be punched into the coin after the mint..

When you look at the back of the nickel you can also see how flattened the details of Monticello are. The front of the nickel had whatever it was that would make the ring marks while the back lost major details to its design by being against something flat.

 

I mentor many, many people and not just in numismatics.

I am also sometimes told that I don't know what I am talking about and that is fine.

Move aside and let someone else who really cares and wants to learn step up.

My time is precious to me and I'll give it away freely but the recipient must be serious about wanting what I have to give.

This fellow got defensive from the word go and again, that is fine..

NEXT!

 

Be careful... You guy's need to remember that snowflakes need to be handled gently, otherwise they tend to crumble or melt.

 

Earl42, I'd be willing to bet that if your reply 4 posts above,
was the very first reply to the OP's post, he would have not
understood, agreed with, wanted, or appreciated your reply.

Look at the other posts - others here tried to tell him (in less words)
that it was damaged, and how - and NO ONE was rude with him.
He simply chose not to believe or listen to the people here who offered
him honest, straight, opinions and (shorter)explanations of the coin.

I've spent decades 'mentoring' or explaining error coins to lots of
new, existing, young and old, collectors, but to be honest, I don't
feel I need to, nor have the time, to explain how EVERY damaged or
altered coin was made, and exactly why it couldn't be an error coin.
If you have that time and inclination, I applaud you, but when six or
so folks here say it's not an error, and some offer possible explanations,
I'm sorry if that isn't sufficient for the OP. It certainly doesn't warrant
his last reply - which says volumes about his attitude, and what he
really expected (hoped for) when he found the coin.

There's nothing wrong with telling someone they're coin isn't a genuine
mint error, give a short explanation,and then let that person learn about
the minting process themselves. Isn't that the main reason they came here?

Most of the new posters on this site (not all, but most) look at their
coins with a high magnification that 97% of collectors wouldn't use,
find something that is (most times) either damage or (most times)
minor anomalies, because they are not familiar with what coins actually
look like after dies wear out from excessive striking pressure, etc.

As Bill Fivaz says, when someone asks him how a damaged coin was
made, 'I wasn't there when they did it, so I can't tell you exactly how',
but he knows it was not a genuine mint error coin.

Many times the simple explaination works: it was plated, it was pressed,
it was environmentally damaged, etc. - but none of us know what
machine shop the coin was pressed against another coin, what type of
shop the plating was done with, or if a 'sandwich coin' was pressed
between two pieces of leather, or two pieces of balsa wood. We also
don't know exactly, most of the time, the actual cause of 'enviornmental
damage'.

I guess my rant is done, at least for now.

 

I just have to say this, there's nothing left for me to say...

 

To.... the "hurt my feelings" internet police? Too bad, in your rush to show such feigned outrage, you didn't think this through first.

You're right, Earl, and surely not a single one of us ever thought of this before. You're, of course, wrong, but why let that get in the way of some good old fashioned virtue signaling.

Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the gentleman you've taken issue with. With all due respect, something tells me you've a lot of catching up to do...

 

No one gave him a value for his coin, so here goes: 5c.

 

I think part of it, is when you are not knowledgeable in a certain area, and you believe something to be true, and then you find out it is not true, there is a denial, and a shock, and it's easy to vent your anger through the semi-anonymity of the internet.
The way the flip is marked, it appears he bought this coin on the pretense that it was some rare error. And now he is probably embarrassed that he over paid for a nickel, and it's easier to lash out here, than to admit he made a mistake in judgment. (Being a moron.)
I am sure I have over paid for some things. That's life. You learn from your mistakes.

 

The very first error coin I bought with my own money
(as opposed to finding errors in circulation), back in
1962, turned out to be a nickel with a cent pressed into
the back of it. I paid $2 (decent money back then for
a 12 year old), and when I found out it was not an error,
I was a bit embarrassed that I bought it, but even at 12 years
old, not upset or angry, like the OP.

Yes, we all make mistakes.

Yes, we all have to learn about any hobby we want to partake in.

Yes, we have to accept other's opinions, about something we might
not know anything about - or at least not get THAT P.O'd because of
our own mistake.

 

If vise, then imprint, not exo. I would like to see this thing up close myself.

 

We need a moment of silence to say good-bye to two of our members...........

 

Three.

 

What did I miss?

 

The OP only stuck around for two of the five stages of rejection... denial & anger.

With a little more patience he would have gone through the full cycle with a progression to bargaining, depression and acceptance.

 

Where are the internet police when you need them?