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<p>[QUOTE="cladking, post: 1377799, member: 68"]Great post.</p><p><br /></p><p>I suspect that some dies missed the sandblasting back in the old days of proof set making and "know" that not all SMS dies recieved sandblasting. There are examples of SMS coins struck off brand new dies that have no cameo effect at all. This is the main reason SMS cameo cents are so rare. </p><p><br /></p><p>There was quite a bit of experimenting going on with SMS dies, planchets, and striking so there are a lot of oddballs in these years. This is probably the cause of the existence of the '64 SMS's since these were still being struck into '65. (I'm not sure this applies to the half dollar though)</p><p><br /></p><p>It's true that proof sets and SMS's are heavily cherrypicked now days for cameos but this is just part of the reason they are rare. Remember that only the cameos actually removed from sets affect the incidence of cameos in sets. Sellers simply know to submit cameos or sell them for higher pices. In the old days there were dozens of collecors who knew about cameos each able to look at thousands of sets but now it's thousands of collectors chasing dozens of sets because choice sets aren't usually available. Sometimes heirs will sell valuable cameos as typical sets though so they are still out there. </p><p><br /></p><p>'73 is the year that cameos become common but it's '83 before they become almost universal. </p><p><br /></p><p>There will be hoards of cameos hitting the market in the future but collectors should remember that these are all quite scarce and generally people simply didn't have access to the numbers of sets required to find significant numbers. There was deep interest in cameos but it wasn't widespread so not even all accumulations were getting searched. Even as late as 1980 there was almost no searching of SMS's going on anywhere. I could find large accumulations that hadn't been searched. Now days you almost have to find original sets to have even the slightest chance or to be very lucky and find a collector's hoard that got to market. Of course it's far easier to buy them as cameos but no one sells them cheap.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cladking, post: 1377799, member: 68"]Great post. I suspect that some dies missed the sandblasting back in the old days of proof set making and "know" that not all SMS dies recieved sandblasting. There are examples of SMS coins struck off brand new dies that have no cameo effect at all. This is the main reason SMS cameo cents are so rare. There was quite a bit of experimenting going on with SMS dies, planchets, and striking so there are a lot of oddballs in these years. This is probably the cause of the existence of the '64 SMS's since these were still being struck into '65. (I'm not sure this applies to the half dollar though) It's true that proof sets and SMS's are heavily cherrypicked now days for cameos but this is just part of the reason they are rare. Remember that only the cameos actually removed from sets affect the incidence of cameos in sets. Sellers simply know to submit cameos or sell them for higher pices. In the old days there were dozens of collecors who knew about cameos each able to look at thousands of sets but now it's thousands of collectors chasing dozens of sets because choice sets aren't usually available. Sometimes heirs will sell valuable cameos as typical sets though so they are still out there. '73 is the year that cameos become common but it's '83 before they become almost universal. There will be hoards of cameos hitting the market in the future but collectors should remember that these are all quite scarce and generally people simply didn't have access to the numbers of sets required to find significant numbers. There was deep interest in cameos but it wasn't widespread so not even all accumulations were getting searched. Even as late as 1980 there was almost no searching of SMS's going on anywhere. I could find large accumulations that hadn't been searched. Now days you almost have to find original sets to have even the slightest chance or to be very lucky and find a collector's hoard that got to market. Of course it's far easier to buy them as cameos but no one sells them cheap.[/QUOTE]
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