1970 D Type "M" Reverse Quarter New Purchase

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  1. proofartoncircs

    proofartoncircs Junior Member

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  3. This thread is great! I definitely see the difference now. Time to check the mint sets. TC
     
  4. Stewart

    Stewart Searcher of the Unique

    Here is a side by side of the Type "M" and Type "B" Washington Quarter
    Reverses. All Type "B" Photos and Coin are owned By Dlmtorts.
    Both coins are 1970-D
    I am really enjoying these Varieties
    I want to Thank Proofartoncircs
    for all his hard work and research to help make the rest of the
    Numismatic Community aware of this exciting variety.

    I hope this helps

    Terry

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  5. proofartoncircs

    proofartoncircs Junior Member

    Here is another interesting Type M point.
    Type B is the only quarter to have the no gap at all from the arrow points to the adjacent leaf on the left. All other quarters have an definite opening except type M.
    Type M has the gap partially filled in. As you wiggle the coin back and forth, it tends to appear and disappear. Photos usualy show it partially filled in, although I wouldn't rely on that.

    The pickup points in this area remind one of the B PUP's. I believe it is because each of these types were made from a regular die that had relief enhanced in a similiar manner for proof production.
     
  6. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I guess I need to ck all my Bu 1970-D Quarter.thank for the heads up stew!
     
  7. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I just finished going through about 100 1972 mint sets...nuttn'. I have about 50 rolls each of the 1971-d and 1972-d to check next. :rolling:

    So far, the only ones I've found have been the 1970d in 1970 mint sets.
     
  8. Stewart

    Stewart Searcher of the Unique

    Yakpoo,

    What a great way to spend a Saturday.
    Hunting for varieties.
    I Wish luck with the rolls, Have Fun:hail:

    Jello, Your Very Welcome.

    Terry
     
  9. NotSure

    NotSure I'm sure I'm NotSure

    Here's my '70-D Type M, in an old, small white ANACS MS67 holder, I picked up on TT. The colors are much nicer in hand, and I love the look. Not sure if I want to cross it, and watch it drop to MS66, though i think the coin is all there, and is a 67. I think one of the top TPG's may not like the colors and 'Gennie' it. Not sure if the image is big enough, as I'm still 'iffy' at best at posting images. Proofart is THE man, the one to ask about these coins if you want a definitive answer.
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  10. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    I love this type of coin changes and have found a few "B" types but I'm just not understanding what it takes to be a "M" type.
     
  11. NotSure

    NotSure I'm sure I'm NotSure

    I understand exactly where you are coming from, Duke K, but read and re-read proofartoncircs posts, and you WILL get it. Thats how I got it...eventually! (I still giggle a bit reading his username... no offense, but I see that bolded word first.. proofartoncircs...lol.....you DO know I'm a big fan of yours, Herb, from that other forum...nice that you are imparting your knowledge here now!!!)
     
  12. Stewart

    Stewart Searcher of the Unique

    NotSure,
    Beautiful Coin:thumb:

    Duke, Here are the Pick Up Points I use to find the two I have found so far

    There is no barb on the back of the arrow head on the top arrow of the bundle.
    The far left leaf in front of the arrow tips looks doubled.
    The bottom side of the wings running in an arch from the center of the wing
    to the Eagles body is VERY WELL DEFINED and raised off of the field
    of the coin compared to all other quarters

    Hope this helps and welcome to the hunt

    Terry

     
  13. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    True! ...but these old eyes get tired after about the first dozen rolls or so. Btw, do you mind sharing where you came across that 1970-D Type-B? I've been looking, but haven't found one, yet.
     
  14. Stewart

    Stewart Searcher of the Unique

    No Problem, After finding the first Type "M" which was a 1969 D in my own
    collection (YEE HA I love cherry Picking my own stuff) after first reading
    about them in a thread by Proofartcircs over at another forum. A few
    months ago I think. I have been looking for them ever since. I was in a small coin shop here in the town where I live looking to pick up some Ike's to go through and this Very Cleean looking 70-D just caught my eye. I was looking at it through a 2.5x loupe and flipped it over and there she was. Did not expect to see that. Just thought it was a Very Clean 70-d

    Terry
     
  15. NotSure

    NotSure I'm sure I'm NotSure


    Thanks, Stewart (Terry)! I have proofartoncircs to thank for opening my eyes to this variety, which allowed me to find it on TT, and snap it up. TT is famous for their cruddy pics, so I took a chance on it having nicer colors in hand, and was I right! If I could take nice images, I would love to show it off....maybe have it imaged, along with a few other toners I have...but thanks, Stewart (Terry)!
     
  16. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    Yea I think I have it now...hope so at least :D
    Wanna put some up for a guess the M or B type test? lol
    Thanks for the help and I am in the hunt now!!
     
  17. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I love hearing success stories like that! :thumb:

    I was told by a very knowledgable Numistmatist that Breen got it wrong; that the '69D through '72D Type-B's were just speculation and none are actually known to exist.
     
  18. NotSure

    NotSure I'm sure I'm NotSure


    You aren't being serious, are you? Not trying to be a jerk, but you know how it is with the written word.....you have to take it literally, especially with no emoticons....if true, then the 'very knowledgable numismatist' isn't knowledgable in the Washie series.

    I could only HOPE to find the '69-D-'72-D Type B...been looking for a couple years now, and bupkus so far.....I'd take them in ANY grade......and I'm looking in the same area as proofartoncircs......perhaps he found all the ones in Mass.......
     
  19. proofartoncircs

    proofartoncircs Junior Member

    I can vouch for the existence of 1969 D, 1970 D, 1971 D, and 1972 D type B's.

    Also, James Wiles of Coneca can vouch for them. He has seen the 1972 D B, but needed one himself the last I knew.

    My 1972 D B came from a tip jar at Friendly's in Massachusetts. A co-worker was kind enough to bring me all D mint quarters he came across. His wife was a waitress at Friendlys and received a lot of quarters.

    The CPG on page 151 says there is speculation on D mint type B's, however, none have yet been confirmed.

    Page 205 states "The D-mint coins from 1956 through 1964 are suspected with a type B reverse. Keep a lookout for those." If collectors haven't found any in 50 years, I have my doubts.
     
  20. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Hmmm...I'm not quite sure I understand what you're trying to say in your comments. :confused:

    This thread give me hope that I may one day find some 69D-72D Type-Bs myself...I'm interested in looking for any type of Washington Quarter die variety. The Type-Ms are an exciting addition to the search!
     
  21. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I think that's a similar point this other Numistmatist I know was making...he's been looking for the '69D-'72D Type-Bs since they were reported and he hasn't found one, yet.

    I'm excited to see yours! As long as there's a "chance" I might find one, I'll keep looking!
     
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