1970 d Kennedy half dollar 90% silver!!!!

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  1. Michael777

    Michael777 Member

    went out cherry picking garage sales and found this amazing error first of its kind of a mint set too!!! Wow!!!
     

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  3. cpm9ball

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    @Michael777

    I know that 1965-1970 Kennedy's are supposed to be 40% silver, and looking at the edge isn't always proof-positive. Is there a coin dealer or jeweler in your area that has an XRF Analyzer? ~ Chris
     
  4. Michael777

    Michael777 Member

    Really don't need a dealer to tell me what I already know what I'm doing is waiting for the post office to open so I could ship my coin in to pcgs and see how this news will get around the coin is a error a one of a kind error
     
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  5. Reid Morgan

    Reid Morgan Member

    Just weigh both coins with a gram coin scale. A 90% silver Kennedy weighs 12.50 grams and a 40% Kennedy weighs 11.50 grams!
     
  6. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway Survivor

    Yes, get a weight first.
     
  7. Reid Morgan

    Reid Morgan Member

    Don't spend the money with PCGS if you don't have to, but if it DOES weigh 12.50 grams you are a very lucky cherry-picker indeed! Given the upside, it would not hurt to spend the $30-$35 to have that potential life-changer graded. I found an FS-25-1943-103(016.7) at a LCS for $7, so I know what I am talking about.
     
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  8. Michael777

    Michael777 Member

    Yes it checks out
     
  9. cpm9ball

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    Not that I don't trust you, but I don't trust anyone. Let's see a photo of it on the scale. ~ Chris
     
  10. Reid Morgan

    Reid Morgan Member

    Are you SURE it weighs 12.50 grams? 11.50 grams is a 40% silver planchet. You need a coin scale accurate to .01 grams (calibrated).

    If your scale is this accurate, and if then your 1970-D coin weighs 12.5 grams, then and ONLY then, send it in to PCGS ASAP as a PCGS raw coin submission, PCGS #6713. Use the Express Gold Shield service level, add the True View photo option for $5 and the Variety Attribution option for $18. MAKE SURE you include a letter that says the coin weighs 12.5 grams and that you consider this 90% planchet error coin! Let me know how this works out. If this is the real deal, you owm me a six-pack of a good domestic hard cider! ☺️ Don Morgan - ANA, Coneca, SPMC
     
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  11. Joe Campbell

    Joe Campbell Well-Known Member

    Ha ha!!! Well done sir. A wrong metal error 6 years in the making would be news worthy. Please don’t forget to never update this thread again when PCGS confirms it’s a 40%er.

    Also, please note that XRF should show 80% silver on a 1965-1970 Kennedy half. Lots of people screw this up.
     
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  12. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    OP - here's a good tip - make sure you write on the submission flip (2.5 X2.5)
    that you believe it's 90% silver, not 40% - then PCGS will make sure to
    weigh it carefully.

    If you don't, someone might look at it and say 'no error seen' or something
    similar...make sure the actual submission flip has a short description of
    what you think it is, ie: "90% silver error" or something similar.
     
  13. Reid Morgan

    Reid Morgan Member

    It's indeed 80% silver on the surfaces, but by weight a 40% silver 50c Kennedy is one gram lighter than a 90% silver Kennedy. I weigh my coin rolls from a $500 box all the time to ascertain whether there are any 90% in there b4 I open them. An entire roll of 40% silvers barely weighs any more than a roll of clads. A full roll of 90%'s will weigh a full 20 grams more than a roll of 40%'s. Not likely from a $500 bank box, but you can extrapolate from those 20 extra grams to a roll that weighs 3-5 grams above clad normal and know you've got 90% silvers in there. Do you really think all those live half dollar silver hunt channels don't weigh every roll before they sell "silver" rights to those truly un-opened rolls at $5 per roll? Cut me a break! Those gambling-addicted souls who buy 10 rolls @ $5 per roll would be better off if they went on eBay and bought a 40% silver roll of Kennedys for around $45. No gambling needed!
     
  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I would love to see the results so please post the slab when you get it back.
     
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  15. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Unlikely. 1965 has more of a chance than a 1970. Why would there be a 90% blank in the bin 6 years later? Where is the photo of your coin on a scale?
    It's probably 40%.
     
  16. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    O_O ... I'm watching this thread, i wanna see the slab when it comes back
     
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  17. Reid Morgan

    Reid Morgan Member

    I assume all of you know who Fred Weinberg is and that he is participating in this thread? I am glad to see Fred also encouraging the submission of this coin to PCGS. Do not rain on the 70-D owner's chance of the potential upside here, and at the least, a story for his grandchildren. I again only offer the caveat that the coin should weigh-in at least around 12.3 grams before I would submit it to PCGS. Don Morgan
     
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  18. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    I'm not saying I think it might be a 90% planchet.

    I seriously doubt that.

    However, if the OP wants to spend his money, I was just
    suggesting the note on the submission flip so the coin
    gets weighed and examined properly.
     
  19. Joe Campbell

    Joe Campbell Well-Known Member

    1970 halves have an 80% silver / 20% copper outer layer bonded to a 20% silver / 80% copper core. The results you have are exactly what you should expect for a standard 1970 half.

    Or if it’s 80% on the surface then it’s not a 90% half???
     
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  20. Reid Morgan

    Reid Morgan Member

    Thanks to Fred on his advice to put the "12.5" grams weight on the flip itself rather than on a separate letter that I first suggested. That's a clearly superior idea and "Murphy-proof" at the same time.

    I approach this thread from the prospective of a total newbie to cherry-picking and modern grading numismatics in late November, 2019. When I asked on CCF as the newbie "Morgan Guy" on CCF about my first possible FS-25-1943 DDO find, they treated me with respect and did not hope to see me make a fool of myself. When I posted the picture of my very first die variety find, they were quick to tell me that I had indeed found something. I like that attitude on CCF very much.
     
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  21. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    There is a lot of difference between believing a person has a visible variety such as a true dd than a difference in metal content. No one can tell from a photo the small difference between 2 close materials. Weights are generally difficult to accept without an idea of the scale and accuracy . We have seen coins weighed on a 0.1g scale with no calibration and claimed to be different metals. I do not think that anyone wants you to make a fool of yourself at all, just trying to explain the problematic situation you face. Fred's ideas are quite good to follow.
    I would rather see 5 people leave in disgust that we didn't believe them fully, than one who thinks we readily agreed with them without us actually doing it. Some of our knowledgeable people can be difficult to deal with, but they are Good!. Good luck, Jim
     
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