1969s no designers initials?

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  1. lubologist

    lubologist Member

    028.JPG 026 - Copy.JPG 030.JPG found this the other day almost forgot i had it. are there any other like this.
     
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  3. xGAJx

    xGAJx Happy

    You know Lincoln penny's have VDB below Lincoln himself, right, not wherever your pointing in the third picture.
     
  4. lubologist

    lubologist Member

    no not VDB but FG on reverse
     
  5. xGAJx

    xGAJx Happy

    oh, that sorry for misunderstanding.
     
  6. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    He is talking about the FG, for the memorial reverse.

    Im new to collecting but Ive looked through 100,000 coins so far and never seen that before.l
     
  7. xGAJx

    xGAJx Happy

    I dont know, but I checked me pre 82 copper pennies and none have FG maybe it was added later.
     
  8. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    Ok. I see it in the bottom pic now. Very faint though.
     
  9. lubologist

    lubologist Member

    yeah it is there but very faint. must have been greased filled
     
  10. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    No, it was not. Look again.


    OP,

    Your coin is not without the designer's initials. As another member has already said, it's just weak.
     
  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  12. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    Since there is a faint bump this wouldn't be considered a "no-FG" variety. Has to be completely absent, it was close though.
     
  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    A few years ago, I searched an unopened $50 Mint bag of 1980 Lincoln cents and they all had Frank Gasparro's initials on the reverse. I guess they must have been counterfeits.

    Chris
     
  14. 74Teen

    74Teen Member

    I almost got away with it. Darn you meddling kids and your dog Scooby-Doo!!!!
     
  15. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    The FG initials can be found on all normal memorial reverses. Yours are faint but still there. A light struck-through grease is the likely culprit.
    Keep up the hunt!
     
  16. lincolncent

    lincolncent Future Storm Chaser Guy

    I don't think this is a greased die. The lines of the memorial are far too sharp to be grease filled.
    My Cherrypicker's is MIA right now but I believe these were caused in the same way as the '22-D's in that they were caused by die polishing. As they polished the dies it slowly ate away at the FG thus you have "weak" FG's and "no" FG's. I've seen tons of weak FG's but only own a couple good examples of no-FG's.
     
  17. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    There is no listing in the 5th Edition of the CPG for the 69-S other than a DDO. Just because the lines of the Memorial are sharp does not mean that the missing initials can't be the result of a grease-filled die. Also, there doesn't appear to be any indication of die polishing.

    Chris
     
  18. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    The listing in the CPG is for the 1969​D no FG, not the S. I have found a few of the former in circulation. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't show up in the next edition of CPG, as some people disagree with its listing as a variety, the same way that some people do not view the 1922 no D and the 3 and 3 1/2 leg Buffs as varieties either.
     
  19. Erik

    Erik Dumb Noob

    I figure a dealer of your esteem probably has a half dozen or so jeweler's loupes that you might be able to use to find the FG at the bottom right corner of the Lincoln Memorial.
     
  20. lincolncent

    lincolncent Future Storm Chaser Guy

    True, but grease in such a small area without that corner being sharp seems less likely to me. JMO of course, you may certainly be correct.
    It appears to be a worn-ish example which would remove most other die polish indicators. I wasn't paying attention to the mm (I know, its in the thread title lol) which makes grease seem like a better answer, although no doubt other years/mm no FG's certainly exist.
     
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