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<p>[QUOTE="Gam3rBlake, post: 8142942, member: 115909"]I found some more information on that.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1419766[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1419767[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Per Wikipedia:</p><p><b>Charon's obol</b> is an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allusion" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allusion" rel="nofollow">allusive</a> term for the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coins_for_the_dead" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coins_for_the_dead" rel="nofollow">coin</a> placed in or on the mouth<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon's_obol#cite_note-1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon's_obol#cite_note-1" rel="nofollow">[1]</a> of a dead person before burial. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_literature" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_literature" rel="nofollow">Greek</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_literature" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_literature" rel="nofollow">Latin literary sources</a> specify the coin as an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obol_(coin)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obol_(coin)" rel="nofollow">obol</a>, and explain it as a payment or bribe for <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon_(mythology)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon_(mythology)" rel="nofollow">Charon</a>, the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferry" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferry" rel="nofollow">ferryman</a> who conveyed souls across the river that divided the world of the living from the world of the dead. Archaeological examples of these coins, of various denominations in practice, have been called "the most famous <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_goods" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_goods" rel="nofollow">grave goods</a> from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_antiquity" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_antiquity" rel="nofollow">antiquity</a>."<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon's_obol#cite_note-2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon's_obol#cite_note-2" rel="nofollow">[2]</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Contrary to popular <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiology#Mythology" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiology#Mythology" rel="nofollow">etiology</a> there is little evidence to connect the myth of Charon to the custom of placing a pair of coins on the eyes of the deceased, though the larger gold-foil coverings discussed <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon%27s_obol#'Ghost'_coins_and_crosses" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon%27s_obol#'Ghost'_coins_and_crosses" rel="nofollow">above</a> might include pieces shaped for the eyes. Pairs of coins are sometimes found in burials, including cremation urns; among the collections of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Museum" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Museum" rel="nofollow">British Museum</a> is an urn from Athens, <i>ca.</i> 300 BC, that contained cremated remains, two obols, and a terracotta figure of a mourning <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siren_(mythology)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siren_(mythology)" rel="nofollow">siren</a>.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon's_obol#cite_note-153" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon's_obol#cite_note-153" rel="nofollow">[153]</a> Ancient Greek and Latin literary sources, however, mention a pair of coins only when a return trip is anticipated, as in the case of Psyche’s catabasis, and never in regard to sealing the eyes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Only rarely does the placement of a pair of coins suggest they might have covered the eyes. In <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea" rel="nofollow">Judea</a>, a pair of silver <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denarius" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denarius" rel="nofollow">denarii</a> were found in the eye sockets of a skull; the burial dated to the 2nd century A.D. occurs within a Jewish community, but the religious affiliation of the deceased is unclear. Jewish ritual in antiquity did not require that the eye be sealed by an object, and it is debatable whether the custom of placing coins on the eyes of the dead was practiced among Jews prior to the modern era.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon's_obol#cite_note-154" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon's_obol#cite_note-154" rel="nofollow">[154]</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Gam3rBlake, post: 8142942, member: 115909"]I found some more information on that. [ATTACH=full]1419766[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1419767[/ATTACH] Per Wikipedia: [B]Charon's obol[/B] is an [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allusion']allusive[/URL] term for the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coins_for_the_dead']coin[/URL] placed in or on the mouth[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon's_obol#cite_note-1'][1][/URL] of a dead person before burial. [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_literature']Greek[/URL] and [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_literature']Latin literary sources[/URL] specify the coin as an [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obol_(coin)']obol[/URL], and explain it as a payment or bribe for [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon_(mythology)']Charon[/URL], the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferry']ferryman[/URL] who conveyed souls across the river that divided the world of the living from the world of the dead. Archaeological examples of these coins, of various denominations in practice, have been called "the most famous [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_goods']grave goods[/URL] from [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_antiquity']antiquity[/URL]."[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon's_obol#cite_note-2'][2][/URL] Contrary to popular [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiology#Mythology']etiology[/URL] there is little evidence to connect the myth of Charon to the custom of placing a pair of coins on the eyes of the deceased, though the larger gold-foil coverings discussed [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon%27s_obol#'Ghost'_coins_and_crosses']above[/URL] might include pieces shaped for the eyes. Pairs of coins are sometimes found in burials, including cremation urns; among the collections of the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Museum']British Museum[/URL] is an urn from Athens, [I]ca.[/I] 300 BC, that contained cremated remains, two obols, and a terracotta figure of a mourning [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siren_(mythology)']siren[/URL].[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon's_obol#cite_note-153'][153][/URL] Ancient Greek and Latin literary sources, however, mention a pair of coins only when a return trip is anticipated, as in the case of Psyche’s catabasis, and never in regard to sealing the eyes. Only rarely does the placement of a pair of coins suggest they might have covered the eyes. In [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea']Judea[/URL], a pair of silver [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denarius']denarii[/URL] were found in the eye sockets of a skull; the burial dated to the 2nd century A.D. occurs within a Jewish community, but the religious affiliation of the deceased is unclear. Jewish ritual in antiquity did not require that the eye be sealed by an object, and it is debatable whether the custom of placing coins on the eyes of the dead was practiced among Jews prior to the modern era.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon's_obol#cite_note-154'][154][/URL][/QUOTE]
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