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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;s1lverbird59, post: 1602056, member: 42191&quot;]Well if the pole is pulled out of the ground and reinserted is the whole pole a little off and slightly tilted or just half of the pole again the reason doesn&#039;t get me away from the fact that it is half stamped and not completely stamped when dies are solid objects and planchets are solid pieces..You got too have a complete doubling on a rotation, There is just no in between half way...Don&#039;t believe it is math possible to happen..Sorry guy gave the High school pro and con debate team hours of though process..My Teacher under my picture put these words&nbsp; &quot;speaks softly carries a big stick&quot; Still not real sure the complete meaning....[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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