1969 s doubled die ☺️ Here it is . I found it searching at a place where many bring there change to

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  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    It wasn't too long ago, that a person had this to go off of.
    http://varietyvista.com/CONECA Master Listings.htm
    The thing for a new collector is to understand what is true Die Doubling, Hub Doubling is, then you can weed out all the other types.
     
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  3. Dale Lassiter

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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Dale.. you never read the other posts correct?
    This is not a winner it's Machine Doubling :facepalm:
     
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  5. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    KFC sounds good right about now. Maybe I'll find a greaser in my boneless bites.
     
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  6. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Look at the machine doubled example and compare it against the normal example and notice a "tell" that nobody ever figured out to this point. That is to say, the "superior" image in the machine doubled example is thinner than the normal example. As such, when you see the widths in the superior image chopped off or compromised like that, it's a cinch for machine doubling, regardless how flat and shelflike or un-flat and un-shelflike or notched or un-notched it otherwise is. In a true doubled die, that superior image will be the exact same lengths and widths as the normal example, every time, unless it's Class VI die doubling, which are those real strange ones as found to turn up on the 9s in the 1943 Class VI steel cents.
     
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  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Yeah, smartie! Didn't you know that posting on CT is like asking someone to do your homework for you?

    Chris
     
  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Okay, please explain to the novice what "true Die Doubling" is as opposed to "Hub Doubling".

    Chris
     
  9. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I'll take a shot. In hub doubling, the hub is doubled and the die is struck clean with the hub imparting the doubling to the die. In die doubling, the hub isn't doubled, however it skips on the die, or strikes the die twice, and the second striking is a little bit off in relationship to the first impression, leaving the second impression adjacent to the first impression on the die. That's the way it happens in traditional doubling. Those "extra thumbs," e.g., I still don't know what the hell the significance of those are.
     
  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Well, I wanted P&G to answer this, but that's okay. However, since you have responded, please explain to the novice collector how the working hub is doubled.

    Chris
     
  11. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The working hub used to get doubled when it was reduced to actual size, by a reduction lathe.
    edited the working hub never got double the die was doubled in the reduction.
     
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  12. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Are you sure?

    https://www.thespruce.com/what-is-a-coin-hub-768426

    Chris
     
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  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    It is allways good to here from folks that are more knowledge able.
    My comprehension skills suck and I am still reading up on the subject. Probably my 5th time reading through different website.


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  15. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    Hey, @Pickin and Grinin, where did you get that photo of me in the fourth grade?
    Steve
     
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  16. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    In much the same way, novice collector. That is to say, hubs make dies, and dies make hubs. Are we understanding this?
     
  17. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    Very Educational Post rickmp! Thanks for the information.
     
  18. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    1. The master hub is produced by using a reduction lathe.

    2. The master hub is used to make the master die.

    3. The master die is used to make the working hub.

    4. The working hub is used to make the working die.

    Where would hub doubling occur?

    Chris
     
  19. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    With the hub making the die and vice versa. Hub to die and die to hub. Hub pressing twice into die and die pressing twice into hub. What's so hard to understand about that?
     
  20. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Nemo solus satis sapit.
     
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  21. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    The working hub wasn't created by a reduction lathe. The master hub was created by a reduction lathe. Had there been any doubling on the master hub as a result of this, EVERY die produced would be doubled.

    Chris
     
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