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<p>[QUOTE="foundinrolls, post: 581223, member: 4350"]From coops post.</p><p><br /></p><p>"On a true doubled die, the devices are doubled on the die. Thus the term, Doubled die. All coins struck from that die will show the same spread because of the hubbings that took place on the die. If they are not in proper alignment, then the coins will show doubled devices"</p><p><br /></p><p>To continue with a little more, the die as coop described is doubled. The mintmarks, prior to 1990 or so were added to the dies after the dies were made. So the details like the date and lettering are doubled but in general terms the mintmark is not. </p><p><br /></p><p>That is why if the mintmark and the date have that scraped look with the details looking doubled, but the doubled appearance is flat and in the same direction on the date and the mintmark, for example, it is 99.999999% that the coin exhibits machine doubling.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are exceptions as one of the more recently found 1969 S DDO Lincoln's has all the characteristics of a doubled die as well as having some machine doubling evident.</p><p><br /></p><p>If the doubling is flat and shelflike and appears as though it is moved metal, it is machine doubling. If the doubling is rounded and has some depth it is a doubled die. </p><p><br /></p><p>Again, there are exceptions to everything that I won't go into here. There are very specific looks to machine doubling versus die doubling and those of us who are "nuts" about die varieties can instantly tell the difference between the two. </p><p><br /></p><p>It takes a lot of seeing the wrong stuff and then a lot of understanding the right stuff and we were all beginners at one point. I won't embarrass myself by telling stories of my earlier,(25 years ago or more) screwups<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> But we all started at the beginning.</p><p><br /></p><p>As stated by others, the coin at the top of the thread exhibits machine doubling.</p><p><br /></p><p>Have Fun,</p><p>Bill[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="foundinrolls, post: 581223, member: 4350"]From coops post. "On a true doubled die, the devices are doubled on the die. Thus the term, Doubled die. All coins struck from that die will show the same spread because of the hubbings that took place on the die. If they are not in proper alignment, then the coins will show doubled devices" To continue with a little more, the die as coop described is doubled. The mintmarks, prior to 1990 or so were added to the dies after the dies were made. So the details like the date and lettering are doubled but in general terms the mintmark is not. That is why if the mintmark and the date have that scraped look with the details looking doubled, but the doubled appearance is flat and in the same direction on the date and the mintmark, for example, it is 99.999999% that the coin exhibits machine doubling. There are exceptions as one of the more recently found 1969 S DDO Lincoln's has all the characteristics of a doubled die as well as having some machine doubling evident. If the doubling is flat and shelflike and appears as though it is moved metal, it is machine doubling. If the doubling is rounded and has some depth it is a doubled die. Again, there are exceptions to everything that I won't go into here. There are very specific looks to machine doubling versus die doubling and those of us who are "nuts" about die varieties can instantly tell the difference between the two. It takes a lot of seeing the wrong stuff and then a lot of understanding the right stuff and we were all beginners at one point. I won't embarrass myself by telling stories of my earlier,(25 years ago or more) screwups:-) But we all started at the beginning. As stated by others, the coin at the top of the thread exhibits machine doubling. Have Fun, Bill[/QUOTE]
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