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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;19Lyds, post: 2438422, member: 15929&quot;]Simply because it won&#039;t.</p><p><br /></p><p>Understanding the effects of die wear and die state AND machine doubling are critical factors in determining varieties.</p><p><br /></p><p>Regardless of wear on a die, it will produce exactly the same variety each and everytime. It may be heavier (EDS) or weaker (LDS) but all elements will be there.</p><p><br /></p><p>The only possible exception might be grease filling on certain elements (which is where die markers may come into play) but in all honesty, the folks that attribute these coins do as many detailed studies as they can to verify these varieties in as many stages as possible.</p><p><br /></p><p>On the OP&#039;s coins, even with his poor photographs, it is evident to me that he is &quot;seeing&quot; doubling where no die doubling actually exists. My experience in this particular field has shown me, conclusively, that the harder I look and stare at a coin that I &quot;suspect&quot; may be a specific variety, the more I mentally rationalize out what I &quot;think&quot; I see.</p><p><br /></p><p>My experiences has also shown me that, If I actually happen across one of these known varieties, I simply do not have to rationalize anything as the evidence is right there.</p><p><br /></p><p>Even a lousy photograph (provided its not blurry and close enough to show specific details of the doubled devices) will show the doubling.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the number of dies used for the 69-S Lincoln, with a mintage of 544+ Million coins, it would be a safe guess that 544+ dies were usedbased upon published figures from the US Mint of 1,000,000 coins per obverse die.</p><p><br /></p><p>Our intrepid OP has an incredible desire to find the coin of his dreams and, I&#039;m sure, has looked at many 1969-D Lincolns. What he is missing, is a functional understanding of die state, die wear, and machine doubling/die erosion doubling.</p><p>Once he scores his 1st solid doubled die (which probably is not going to be a 69-S) then he&#039;ll get a clearer understand of what to look for.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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