1969 S DDO

Pcgs make the doubling look out of this world! Is there such thing as ddo and reverse?

 

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For this year and mint

 

Simply because it won't.

Understanding the effects of die wear and die state AND machine doubling are critical factors in determining varieties.

Regardless of wear on a die, it will produce exactly the same variety each and everytime. It may be heavier (EDS) or weaker (LDS) but all elements will be there.

The only possible exception might be grease filling on certain elements (which is where die markers may come into play) but in all honesty, the folks that attribute these coins do as many detailed studies as they can to verify these varieties in as many stages as possible.

On the OP's coins, even with his poor photographs, it is evident to me that he is "seeing" doubling where no die doubling actually exists. My experience in this particular field has shown me, conclusively, that the harder I look and stare at a coin that I "suspect" may be a specific variety, the more I mentally rationalize out what I "think" I see.

My experiences has also shown me that, If I actually happen across one of these known varieties, I simply do not have to rationalize anything as the evidence is right there.

Even a lousy photograph (provided its not blurry and close enough to show specific details of the doubled devices) will show the doubling.

As for the number of dies used for the 69-S Lincoln, with a mintage of 544+ Million coins, it would be a safe guess that 544+ dies were usedbased upon published figures from the US Mint of 1,000,000 coins per obverse die.

Our intrepid OP has an incredible desire to find the coin of his dreams and, I'm sure, has looked at many 1969-D Lincolns. What he is missing, is a functional understanding of die state, die wear, and machine doubling/die erosion doubling.
Once he scores his 1st solid doubled die (which probably is not going to be a 69-S) then he'll get a clearer understand of what to look for.

 

Don't you have to take into account that pcgs pictures have ultra shiny never been breathed on coins? That has to make a difference. Coins end up buried or on ship wrecks. It doesn't mean it's not authentic

 

The OP's photos make no difference, sir; his coin/coins are not of the claimed variety or varieties. Just because a coin has lived a rough life, this does not change what it is, allow a blind eye to be turned towards the facts, or allow one to ignore what it's telling you.

As for the photos you posted, I'm not clear on what you're trying to say, or what point you're trying to make with them. Perhaps you could explain?

 

1969, liberty, trust apeal to double up with the doubling from the picture in refrence. It also has doubling on the reverse. I'm not familiar enough with this coin to know about it

 

I'm scratching my head wondering exactly what it is that you are attempting to say with these two pictures that is of any relevance to the subject at hand other than it's obviously a damaged 1969-S Lincoln Cent.


??????

 

That I have all these coin and taking people opions into consideration so I know what to feed to the dog and ones to hoard.

 

Which "picture in reference"? It's certainly not the big one (zero chance). If you're thinking a lesser variety, a better photo would need to be posted.

 

It doesn't matter really. 1969s or not I'm sending all mine into pcgs. Hey can anyone make out the date on this coin.. I got 1906,1909,1910or1919

 

"All" yours? And it does "matter really", unless you enjoy burning your money that is....

Now let's be serious here.... what would you expect PCGS to do with it other tell you the obvious? You do realize they don't attribute anything and everything sent to them, and that they're not going to do your homework either, right?

 

I know pgsc puts a magnifying glass on their camera on a perfect coin to make seem impossible to find a coin. I know when I look at coins a certain direction under one with a light a certain direction u can see how the light glares off the doubles. Maybe I have 19 maybe I have 0

 

I maybe some kind of thinkteach but I literally came across another one today that stands out differently

 

I read all 5 pages just now. Why God Why!?

 

PCGS will be glad to take your money. You are not going to like the results.

 

That's ok with me. Out of my coins that one is my least favorite. I just threw a couple in my fire pit. Hopefully one wasn't the big one.

 

Okay... no one puts a "magnifying glass" on their camera for the purpose of making people think "perfect" coins are impossible to find. Yes, their photographs are flattering, but should go without saying as to why.

Again, sir; the lighting has nothing to do with why we can say, with absolute certainty, your coin is not the major doubled die for this date/mint. Please don't listen to the nonsense spewed by the OP of this thread, or allow him to make you think there's some explanation as to why we are not seeing what isn't actually there. PCGS isn't going to attribute your coin, sir, even if one of the 19 turned out to be a minor variety. Please, go to their website and discover for yourself why. If you indeed had an example of the major 69-S DDO, you'd know it... there would be no question about it, and everyone here, myself included, would be congratulating you. We're not because it's not, as is really as simple as that.

Below are two links; I respectfully urge you to spend some quality time reading through them. If nothing else, they'll give you a better understanding of the minting process and what a doubled die is.

http://doubleddie.com/58201.html
http://doubleddie.com/58222.html